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Party wall agreement - surveyor cost

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Agrestic · 24/04/2015 14:17

Building an extention. NDNs have been difficult from day one and they have not replied to my party wall letter, I've sent it twice.

I'm going to have to get surveyors involved and am wondering just how much I can expect it to eat out of my extremely tight budget?

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MaudieDonkers · 24/04/2015 14:35

I think we were quoted £1000. Ours was a dedicated party wall surveyor and it was money well spent as we were being bullied by the neighbours and their surveyor. He left them looking like idiots and reduced our bill.

Mitzimaybe · 24/04/2015 14:44

In some circumstances they will be entitled to their own independent surveyor and you'll have to pay for that too. I'm not sure of the details but I know someone who was the "difficult" NDN and they got that.

Agrestic · 24/04/2015 14:56

I believe that because they haven't even bothered to reply I will get to appoint a surveyor for them (at my expense)? And I can't appoint one for both of us, we'll need one each? We're you building or the NDN? I've tried talking to them but they won't engage, or even open the door :(.

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ConceptionZilla · 24/04/2015 15:08

Our NDN are building an extension that threatens our fragile cottage.

They incorrectly notified us about the party wall issues and we got a surveyor involved who has pointed out our rights. Our ndn will pay for our surveyor as well as their own.

Months down the line it's all still being negotated as they still haven't served correct notices to us or the other neighbour. It's costing them a fortune.

I have no advice but your surveyot should know the law.

We are being as friendly and accommodating as we can be in the circumstances.

MaudieDonkers · 24/04/2015 17:34

And if the two surveyors, yours and NDN's don't agree you have to pay for a third one to arbitrate! Would really stress the importance of getting a specialist party wall surveyor.

chandalier · 24/04/2015 18:24

We had NDN digging down 5 feet and literally 3 inches from the foundations of our 6 bedroom, 250 year old house, 3 weeks ago. They employed cowboy workmen who did not have a clue what they were doing.
We received no party wall letter from neighbours but could hear the JCB digging!
When challenged they lied about having a surveyor's paperwork in place but got caught out when they could not produce anything.
We immediately hired our own surveyor and it was the best thing we ever did. They did internal and external photos of our property to prove the good state of our building and then the huge bill went to NDN, who also got a telling off for coming so close to us and being rotten neighbours. They are liable for all costs if our house collapses as work is still going on their side and will be for some time.
They also had the cost of hiring their own surveyor who is checking their on going work , to ensure the safety of our house and that they do the work properly. There will be a final check at the end by both surveyors to see that all is well for the finished result.
So glad we weren't away at the time.
I expect the Op's neighbours are terrified of what they intend to do.

Marmitelover55 · 24/04/2015 18:28

Our architect thought if would be about £1200 but thankfully NDN eventually signed the agreement without appointing a surveyor. Have just done the same for him.

ThunderboltKid · 24/04/2015 18:53

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Celeriacacaca · 24/04/2015 19:43

Anyone extending where party walls are involved just HAS to build the cost of party wall surveyors into their budget these days (c.£1k+). It's generally a fact of life these days, esp as people no longer communicate in a way that they might have in the past. If you're building onto their wall/foundations, then bear in mind you'll be liable to pay them for a proportion of the cost of those but your surveyor will advise on that.

I think a verbal conversation would have been the best opening move and, hopefully it's not too late for that. Our neighbours just put letters through the letterbox and expected us to sign things that we weren't completely sure about and they were never around when we were available to discuss it. Consequently we couldn't sign within the required 14 days and ended up with our own surveyor, and I'm glad we did as their works caused damage to our property and it was good we had our own representative to sort things out as I felt they had no consideration for anyone but themselves.

Our other neighbours, on the other hand, knocked the door beforehand, chatted to us about their plans and explained things. We used their surveyor for the party wall survey, which kept their costs down, and it was a much easier and more pleasant experience.

You say your neighbours have been difficult from the outset but in what way? The tone of your post doesn't exactly sound particularly friendly, maybe they don't want to talk to you for that reason. It's not their fault that your budget is tight!

Perhaps your neighbours don't know what to do, so to do nothing is easier. Why not knock the door over the weekend and try to have a chat to them?

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