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BreeVDKamp · 25/01/2015 19:17

Did you sell your property through any of these online agents? I've read lots of old threads about them but interested in more recent reviews, for extra research :)

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NancyDroop · 25/01/2015 19:21

We sold our house with Emoov last year. It worked out very well. Paid £400 rather than £12-15k... Our house sold well over the asking price the high street estate agents suggested and doing viewings ourselves worked well. Would totally recommend it.

BreeVDKamp · 25/01/2015 19:59

Wow that's good to hear :) did you find it OK doing the viewings yourself?

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BreeVDKamp · 25/01/2015 20:02

Also I think we'd be crap at negotiating - if someone offers less than the asking price, I wouldn't want to ask for more... And what is the etiquette, can you just wait for the offers to go up? How did you manage to sell for more than the askig price, did you tell buyers that you already had an asking price offer and then they offered more?

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BreeVDKamp · 25/01/2015 20:03

(I don't mean did you lie, I mean did you already have an asking price offer and another buyer then offered more... Sorry!)

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NancyDroop · 25/01/2015 22:59

Sorry for the slow response! We were lucky to have lots of interest in the house so it sold quickly and we took offers all on the same day (people viewed on W & Th and we accepted bids on Saturday). People just offered above, some made a second higher offer on the day when told by the Emoov agent that their offer wasn't the highest (Emoov coordinate the offers).

That was a year ago though when there was a lot going on in the market and we had an in demand house for the area.

Now I guess you might give it a bit longer? Or properties move more slowly where you are? If people offer below asking you could say you're holding out for asking, then wait for 2 weeks say (that's long enough for most people to have seen an online listing and book a viewing), then if no better offer comes in accept the first one as long as it's ok for you?

Madamnit · 25/01/2015 23:02

I've used urban sales and lettings before, they were fab. They take offers and negotiated on our behalf - they rate really highly on Trust Pilot

NancyDroop · 25/01/2015 23:03

We really liked doing the viewings ourselves. We knew our house well so could answer questions properly. I found that often wasn't the case when viewing other properties to buy.

Since it was our house we could also let people wander a bit on their own. Estate agents can't really do that, they have to keep your stuff safe but we could make the call that our viewers were nice and we trusted them to nosy around on their own after the tour. I think this made people get a better feel for the house and led to more/better offers.

sunshineandhappy · 26/01/2015 07:22

I used hatched. Where I live agencies don't do viewings anyway, but apart from that I felt like they did everything a high street agent would do, but for less than £700. Photos and details were great, very professional to deal with, and viewings confirmed by text and email so you didn't forget what time. I'm just waiting to exchange, and would use again. Only issue is that I feel some buyers are put off. I had periods where identical houses to mine came on the market and sold, and I hadn't even had a viewing in that period. I don't understand that, but maybe something to be aware of. Good luck.

emptycoffers · 26/01/2015 07:49

Have used Housenetwork twice and would always use the in future. They were great at establishing the buyers' credentials and handled price negotiations getting us a great result

BreeVDKamp · 26/01/2015 08:57

Great, thanks everyone!

I haven't read of a bad experience yet, which in a way worries me a bit! Maybe it will be us who experiences a problem, ha :)

It did cross my mind that some potential buyers might be put off, but when we are looking at properties our first port of call is always primelocation etc, so if the photos/floorplan/details are good, maybe it's worth it. However as a buyer I do always assume that the properties online will have already sold by the time they're up online.

We are in London zone 3 so still a v quick market.

I think this definitely sounds like the best option for us. DC1 due in May so now just got to work out when we are going to do it! I will have all of March and April free to do viewings etc so that is good. Post-baby I imagine it will be hell trying to keep the flat tidy! DH wants to wait another 6/9 months ish. I don't know!!

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emptycoffers · 26/01/2015 10:16

Even in London - do you think property is sold before it appears online?

When we sold our place in outer London zone 4, a couple of years ago, in a desirable road, the high st agent had no so called 'ready buyers' - and we dropped them after a couple of pointless weeks and them telling us to drop the price and sold at full price via housenetwork.

As a vendor, even if an agent said to me - 'I have a buyer and can sell without putting your house online - I would just think, no way! - I will get a higher price by going on the open market - not just restricting myself to (potentially) a few of the agent's 'chosen' mates.

For run of the mill, non-celeb world houses, I can't see how the vendor wouldn't be disadvantaged by NOT going on the open market - buy hey - I'm open to learning!!!

BreeVDKamp · 26/01/2015 11:31

Sorry, took me a few attempts to process your post emptycoffers Blush This is the first time we will be selling a property so we're pretty novice! It just seems that if ever we want to view a property we've seen online, we ring up and it's already gone. But really good to hear your experience, you sound like an expert! :)

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NancyDroop · 26/01/2015 14:40

One reason the online houses are sold: the market moves quickly but the estate agents leave the properties on for ages, I think to inflate the size of their portfolio. Annoying.

I don't think the London agents have anyone on their books as such, everyone is looking online.

emptycoffers · 26/01/2015 16:25

@ BreeVDKamp - I'm no expert unfortunately but I've been buying and selling for quite a while. When I first bought/sold a house it was in the pre-internet days and on Saturdays and Sundays we would walk around town with all the other couples going from estate agent to estate agent - like a house-hunting conga through the city centre.

Sounds bizarre and unthinkable now. The only way you would hear about new houses for sale was through the local paper, for sale boards, the estate agent's window and would you believe it, when you registered, the agents used to actually write to you with new houses for sale lists.

Now people only look in estate agent windows when they end up in a town by accident on a rainy afternoon with nothing to do!!!

The way the market is now, the power of the agentsis in controlling access to the internet portals - that is, only estate agents are able to enter houses on Rightmove etc.

In the old days you physically met the agents a lot when you were house hunting but now, you find your own house online and you rarely meet the agent in person - whether buying or selling.

I don't know my feeling is the bust/boom cycles don't bring out the best in people and estate agents are at the heart of that and the dealing with estate agents is like seeing a problem through a magnifying glass.

Anyway, enough harking back!

It's staggering after all these years how rubbish many agents can still be at filing property details on Rightmove... flats with no lease details, no indication of which floor they are on what the service charges are. Houses with pictures taken of light fittings in the dark, washing hanging on chairs. You know, it's unnecessary! They are taking the piss out of people.

I wouldn't pay for it but some people are still taken advantage of by these shysters and tricksters.

I would never give control of my biggest financial asset to these guys so I always do it myself these days - use an online agent who allows me to write the details and gives me control of photos and so on and on average charges about 80% less - it's a no-brainer as they say.

The last time I considered using an agent for my house sale, he turned up and wanted to take photos there and then, I said ok but I'm going to replaster and paint this wall so I'll send you a new photo. He produced a brochure with a picture of this wall with the unplasted hole still in it. I said, look, I'll send you a new picture - neither he nor anyone in his office could work out how to load up a jpeg from my camera - so they said!!! Couldn't be bothered or know less about technology than their customers.

Obviously they didn't get the job - I don't need liars/incompetents handling my life's work, why would anybody entrust something so important to these guys?

And I've come across this so much. It's not a rare event. It's every day. I rang up an agent the other day about a house in a rough area and she told me - you wouldn't like it there!!! I can't do any viewings - the rooms are full of rubbish etc etc etc.
I suspect she was putting buyers off with a view to getting the owner to reduce the price to sell the house to a property developer mate. It's a dirty business and no mistake.

ignominious · 26/01/2015 17:21

We've sold a couple using online agents, wouldn't use an old fashioned one now. Both properties in London which helped. We're looking to buy at the moment and the agents on places were looking at are useless.

jennifermckay80 · 27/01/2015 11:44

Hi @BreeVDKamp. I work for MOV8 Real Estate, one of the agents you have enquired about. Whilst we're hugely flattered to be mentioned in the same breath as national estate agency brands such as emoov, HouseNetwork and Hatched we are in fact a local estate agent based in Edinburgh. I see that you are looking for an online agent to sell your property in London. Sadly on this occasion we are unable to help you. Whilst we employ many web based techniques we are not an online agency, however we do offer many of the advantages of an online agency such as incredible value fixed estate agency fees and transparent contracts along with the benefits of a high end traditional agency such as beautiful photography, highly skilled negotiators and excellent customer service. We thank you very much for your enquiry and wish you the best of luck with your property sale :-)

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