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Gozogozo · 28/10/2014 15:21

Hi I have seen advice that tenants do not have to allow access to landlord for eg viewing purposes, even if the assured short hold lease stipulates viewing should be allowed with 48 hours notice. Is this also true for professionals eg landlord hoping to sell as soon as we leave so wanting surveyors to value, estate agents etc?
Thanks for any help. Feeling beleaguered as only been here 2 months & requests coming in. Also have half the house full of boxes as we are here during own house refurb & he was a bit funny about it.

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specialsubject · 28/10/2014 16:15

wow, feeling famous here! Smile

If you pay rent it is YOUR home and no-one can come in without your permission except in an emergency. Same as if you owned the place. Emergencies are things that threaten the house, medical issues and renewing the gas safe certificate.

assuming you have a proper AST, you have four months left to run. He doesn't need to do the surveys and valuation yet, you aren't leaving until February and no-one is buying it with you in place.

what was he a 'bit funny' about?

anyway, negotiation is key. Get in touch, suggest that you talk again in the last month of the tenancy and arrange a slot for all these professionals to come in and do what they need to do.

HaveToWearHeels · 28/10/2014 19:41

Yeap as special says, LL can stipulate what ever he wants in the contract, but it has to be within the law to be enforceable. Does he expect you to have viewings for the next four months ? The man is a joker !

specialsubject · 28/10/2014 19:45

yes, should have stressed that point - it may be in the contract but that doesn't necessarily mean it is enforceable. The big thing is your entitlement to 'quiet enjoyment' which is not going to happen with four months of viewings!

btw re the boxes - as long as you aren't creating a hazard or damaging the place, that's your business. One point is to leave a small gap between the box pile and the wall to allow air circulation.

Gozogozo · 28/10/2014 20:26

Thank you so much for your help.

He is funny about it in that he was extolling the beauties of the dining room, which opens straight onto a main road/bus route &, as we are here for a short time, we chose to use this room to keep boxes of stuff that we wouldn't need immediately. He saw early on (hot water didn't work so we called him in) & made some unhappy noises. We have kept everything away from walls for ventilation & avoiding marking surfaces. I did ask if we could open the windows occasionally but they are all locked permanently shut.

The bathrooms are all carpeted up the side & he wouldn't fit shower curtains. 'Take care' was only response.

He didn't take an inventory on us moving in...deposit is in proper scheme though.

A separate question: the door to garage & doors to 2 garden sheds are bolt only so no locks. As they can all be accessed by just walking around the house. The locks are all s**t & I really need to sort it out if he's going to be coming round much. It's a conservation area but that shouldn't stop me putting lock & padlocks on whilst I'm here should it? I can remove when we leave obviously.

I absolutely do not put it past him to come in when I'm not home Sad

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specialsubject · 28/10/2014 21:08

the bathroom is how you viewed and accepted it, you can only do what you can do. Your obligation is to use the place in a 'tenant-like manner' which does include taking showers/baths!

yes, you can fit locks as long as you remove and make good on departure. More fool him for not taking an inventory.

remember I'm a landlord though - so according to many here I am money-grabbing, thieving, lazy, crooked and blood-sucking. Wink For more on the subject of quiet enjoyment from another blood-sucking crook, try this:

www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/landlords-right-of-entry/

roneik · 28/10/2014 21:38

Your landlord has smelt the coffee , smart money wants out of the buytofret game

They scream wheres the exit , even when they are shopping in tesco for their unbranded foods .

Stop press they now shop in Aldis with the chavs Grin

PigletJohn · 28/10/2014 21:47

Shed bolts can be replaced by padbolts or Brenton bolts, which are secured with a padlock. Two per door are better than one.

For outdoor use, get Squire 660 padlocks, which withstand weather. On ebay or from a locksmith you can buy two or more suited to the same key, which is very convenient.

roneik · 28/10/2014 21:55

Was that advice for the buy to let landlord?
Is he living in a shed already? I must cut down on the brandy,

Gozogozo · 29/10/2014 00:12

Thank you PigletJohn.

Yes I was v naive not checking quality/presence of locks but will deal with it as best as I can now.

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specialsubject · 29/10/2014 10:01

I rest my case...

take the meds, roneik. They really help.

Gozogozo · 29/10/2014 16:57

2 quick questions

Does £190 SOUND ridiculous for 2 sets of hasp & padlocks?

Have I any hope of getting the money for securing garage & shed from landlord?

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PigletJohn · 29/10/2014 17:08

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Brenton bolt

padbolts

hasps (not needed with bolts shown)

Squire 660 (suited to same key is convenient)

hahaha!

I have two extra-heavy Ingersoll hasps from warehouse gates, I will sell you both of them and a pair of suited Abloy padlocks for £170. You cannot buy better.

specialsubject · 29/10/2014 17:11

if all this is just to keep the landlord out, try the cheaper route first - write him a recorded delivery letter reminding him of his rights, and yours. I think there's a sample around somewhere but it boils down to 'no access without xx advance warning (and you define the x) and my permission, unless emergency'.

Gozogozo · 29/10/2014 17:12

No need to answer. I think it is over the top. I have asked a friend to help out, will buy materials, forget LL & lesson learned.

Thanks to all who have helped Smile

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PigletJohn · 29/10/2014 17:13

hahaha!

My hasps are similar to this used but VGC

and I think the padlocks are similar to this brand new.

Gozogozo · 29/10/2014 17:14

Sorry specialsubject, cross post.

It's not to keep him out but to keep my possessions (bikes etc) safe!

The access thing is all sorted for the moment.

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specialsubject · 29/10/2014 17:18

aha - excellent news on that front.

otherwise - hmm, again if it was like this when you viewed it then that is what you accepted, and it is not for him to add extra security assuming the house itself meets reasonable standards.

so as noted, fit your own locks, remove when you leave and make good any damage.

hopefully a peaceful six months is now coming up!

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