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sweetheart · 21/10/2014 15:53

I'm sure there are loads of people on mumsnet who are remodelling their homes in some way or another. We are about to buy a house that needs lots of work doing to it and I'd like to find ways to make our money go further so I'm hoping to use the collective wisdom of Mumsnet to see what things I should really splash the cash on and ideas of things that can be done on more of a budget.

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Mum4Fergus · 21/10/2014 16:33

I'll join you on this one!! I've been in house (ex Council) for 18 months during which time DS father
left us so money, and indeed motivation, have been thin in the ground. However I've finished DS bedroom-just emulsion in 3 walls and a full size Fireman Sam mural on 4th that my folks bought for me. I'm in middle of doing my room-emulsion again and I'm in process of putting rails and shelves in cupboard to save on furniture...then it's the turn of downstairs which is a big job, huge in fact lol no idea where to start with it!!

FantasticMrsFoxx · 21/10/2014 18:01

I think it depends how confident you are in your own DIY skills, as well as having a grasp of your limits.
Painting walls and ceilings is a pretty easy, it's the hard slog that goes into prepping walls for paint work and getting neat lines and a smooth finish which is the tricky bit.
I've tiled a kitchen, re-plumbed a bathroom, concrete screeded my vestibule floor and installed kitchen units myself, out of financial necessity not choice, but I'd rather leave that stuff to the professionals now. Most electrical work requires a 'competent person' now, but I've done basics (upgrading single sockets to doubles, wired in kitchen appliances etc) in the past which I don't think you are supposed to do now.
We are planning a big kitchen extension next year but I know the daily rate of the local 'handyman' who we've used for a few things in the past. I'll be getting him in for wall tiling, basic plumbing and carpentry to save money where I can against the builders quote for the same job (2nd fix stuff).
I think it also depends on your family circumstances. I'd rather leave the professionals to it, and come home from work to a job done than give up my evenings and weekends. Saying that I'll be on maternity leave during the build next year so expect to see me in a hard hat and overalls!

Mum4Fergus · 21/10/2014 18:15

Forgot to mention I've taken the upstairs doors off (6 of them), they are style and gate with the obligatory panel of hardboard over the panels, very 70s lol they will be stripped, sanded (pos repaint depending on condition), new handles etc...bulk bought handles on Ebay and borrowed electric sander ...

FantasticMrsFoxx · 21/10/2014 18:16

Don't buy paint from B&Q/Homebase. Get proper trade paint. Some things you shouldn't scrimp on.
Shop around for new kitchen and bathroom fittings and appliances. An hour on the internet could save you £££.
Keep an eye out for sales. E.g. Laura Ashley has a wallpaper sale on saving £20/roll.
Search out discount tile warehouses, but measure up carefully as you are unlikely to get a refund on extras or to find more if you break more than you think.
Try gumtree for a whole load of items from whole kitchens to furnishings. You'll be surprised! I got a nearly new £300 Next coffee table for £40. You can also pick up Belfast sinks for around £50.
If you have smallish rooms search out end of roll carpet bargains.

shaska · 21/10/2014 18:57

We've been working for three years on a 2 bed house that needed full redecorating, plumbing, wiring, new kitchen and new bathroom. No structural or roof stuff.

Our savings have been in labour, because bar ceiling plastering and major plumbing/electrics, we've done it ourselves. When it's all done, we'll probably have spent £15k or so, which would've been 20 had DH not built our kitchen himself. Jury's out on whether that was a good idea. It works and looks nice, and since we're not selling the place that's fine - but for resale we would probably have a new 'proper' kitchen put in.

The main things I've learned:

  • You can do most things yourself. Youtube tutorials can tell you how to do pretty much anything.
  • However, doing it yourself adds a lot of time. Both in the time it'll take you to do a particular job and the amount of time you have to spend on the house in general. It also allows you to be a bit lazy. We'll be finished probably late next year, but if we'd really gone for it we'd easily be done by now.
  • On the walls, we stripped a lot of wallpaper (easy, but a faff), and then filled any rough parts and used good quality paint and they look great. It's time consuming as you end up doing multiple fills, but much, much cheaper than replastering. Don't know if a builder would advise or allow this but it's worked for us!
  • Ceilings, however, are worth getting a pro to do in my opinion. Both for the finish and for the faff.
  • We've spent money on things like radiators, light fittings, fancy paint. Nothing crazy but not the cheapest versions, and ones we found pleasant to look at. Very glad we did this.
  • Painting is really, really easy and a good place to save money. Get decent brushes, good paint and some good edging tape.
  • We do a fair amount of 'repair instead of replace', though it helps that our house was quite well made to begin with. Eg our front door was horrifying. A weekend with sandpaper, wood filler, paint and some new door jewellery made it gorgeous, and it cost probably £50 instead of £250.
  • We buy most things for the house on ebay. It does mean waiting around for the thing you want to come along, but we've saved a lot.
  • Your taste in decor makes a difference. If you're hoping to do a super minimal extreme clean lines thing then it needs more professional attention to detail. A more casual look is much more forgiving!
  • Sanding and repainting things is magic. As is the power of a serious clean. Also: steel wool.
  • Obvious, but removing stuff is easier and cheaper than adding. Eg, lift carpets, expose the wood, sand and polish, easy. If we'd wanted to add carpet back on then that would've been much more expensive.

Overall, I've also found that doing it ourselves, since it's taking ages, has given us time to change our minds. If we'd done everything at once I think we'd have thought we 'needed' to do a bunch of things that weren't really necessary and wasted quite a lot of money there. Also, living in the house has given us a much better idea of what we really need from it and that's informed our decisions about what to do as we go.

Oh - definitely do the thing of getting one room (we did our bedroom) relatively decent from top to bottom straight away. It sounds silly but having a good looking place to escape to really makes you feel better, and motivates you to do the rest as well.

Crumbelina · 21/10/2014 21:11

That's SUCH good advice, Shaska! We've just spent 4 years renovating our house in the same way. I definitely recommend eBay - we've bought sinks, a custom made fireplace, mirrors, desks, garden furniture - it's amazing if you're patient.

I'd try not to get too stressed about how long things take - we only had weekends and my intial estimate has doubled from 2 to 4 years!

Another tip is to go relatively cheap on some things but splash a bit on the accessories. We bought an Ikea kitchen and bathroom sink but splashed a bit on the taps and cupboard handles. We also spent more on Farrow and Ball paint for cheap ebay furniture (desks/coffee table).

Mumsnet is a fabulous resource too - I got Fired Earth metro tiles for a fraction of the price after reading a post on here about an alternative supplier.

Funnily enough we're about to do it all over again - we're mortgaging ourselves to the hilt for a 3 bedroom neglected wreck. I'll be on these boards alot! Smile

shaska · 21/10/2014 22:37

Ha - Crumbelina, I remember thinking 'oh we'll be done in a year easily!'. Oh how wrong I was.

And yes totally agree to mixing cheap with expensive, especially with taps etc. BUT WHERE ARE THESE CHEAP FIRED EARTH TILES YOU SPEAK OF??????

WhatKatyDidnt · 21/10/2014 22:48

I'm guessing Tons of Tiles?

Crumbelina · 21/10/2014 22:58

Yes! Tons of Tiles! I can't link because I'm on my phone but search for a thread called 'A tile like Fired Earth Retro Metro but cheaper'. I got a sample of the glossy white metro tile from FE and the Tons of Tiles one are exactly the same from the same factory. I'll be buying another shed load for the new house!

specialsubject · 22/10/2014 09:32

trade paint can also be rubbish - not enough vinyl. Wilko paint is good. Keep an eye out for special offers as paint has got very expensive.

£20 a roll wallpaper is not my definition of 'budget'!!

look out for builders and plumbers merchants, and Screwfix. But shop around for everything.

sweetheart · 22/10/2014 09:45

Wow, thanks all so much for your responses. This is all really good useful information.

Dh and I have already agreed that we are not going to rush into the house with all guns blazing. We are going to spend a while just living in it for a bit to settle into how the house will work for us. We also have several different extension options so we really need lots of good advice on what will work best.

Whilst I'm fairly happy to paint / wallpaper myself I'm not exceptionally good at it - I get bored and end up rushing it. Which often means the results are not perfect - I'm looking for perfection with this house (probably being too optimistic there with 2 kids running around!) DIY is not my strong point. Dh is ok, he said he's happy to give things ago and did mention You Tube but again I don't really want him half arsing things.

I have recently upcycled some furniture and was really pleased with the results which has made me realise that we don't need to buy everything brand new (and expensive) and that Ebay will be our friend over the next few months (years).

I think you'll be seeing an awful lot of me on these boards in the coming months looking to pinch everyone's ideas Grin

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shaska · 22/10/2014 10:40

Thanks!

sweetheart · 22/10/2014 11:13

lol so far I estimate I'll wrack up 765 miles just checking out a kitchen showroom and discount tile place I've seen recommended on this topic!

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Crumbelina · 22/10/2014 18:02

Speaking of Screwfix - they do some really nice sliding wardrobes (honest!). We got some for our bedroom, white glass doors with white metal frames for about £500-600. Sliderobes quoted me £5-7k (albeit with fancy hangers, compartments and bespoke thingys). We fitted them and it wasn't to difficult. Well, it wasn't for me as I sat down with a nice cup of tea and watched my husband do it ...

Mum4Fergus · 22/10/2014 19:43

So in the spirit of the OP, any recommendations on where I can buy door handles? Need 8 sets!

sweetheart · 22/10/2014 22:52

I'm not sure if it was on here or another thread I've read this week but I'm sure someone mentioned bulk buying them cheap on Ebay

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Mum4Fergus · 22/10/2014 23:16

Think I've found the ones I'm after on Ebay right enough! And under my intended budget...happy days Smile

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