We've planned our kitchen with a hob on the peninsula. What are our options for extractor fans?

[bryte]

We're having an extension and new kitchen fitted over the summer. There's nowhere else for the hob to go except on the peninsula which separates the kitchen from the dining area. The peninsula will be underneath the steel beam where the wall currently is.

We would rather not have a large chimney cooker hood hanging down. What other options do we have? We'd prefer something more flush or built into the ceiling (beam/boxed in area)

I know someone who's got one that is in the work surface behind the hob and then rises up when in use and sinks again out of sight when not in use. Like this extractor

We had the same issue and ended up buying one that was meant to be flush with the ceiling but instead had it fitted 20 cm down from ceiling height with and then we fitted an oak frame around the sides. It works really well as it also adds lighting to the island. The model we chose has an outside fan which reduces the height you need inside and also made it quieter ins the kitchen. Happy to post some pictures if you are interested.

Hi Grumpy - yes, very interested. I'm finding it difficult to locate pictures or visualize anything other than chimney hoods.

Jelly Belly - the extractor coming out of the worktop is probably too expensive an option for us. It's a good solution for he right type of kitchen.

I know this is a large chimney cooker hood, but it's really different: www.howdens.com/appliance-collection/extractors/island-chimney/lamona-stainless-steel-cylinder-island-chimney-extractor/ - any good?

We had this issue. We fitted an extractor fan flush to the ceiling and then our builders boxed the ducting in with the steel beam so it can't be seen. Looks so much better than a cooker hood. It passed building regs.

I've got something like this. Barely noticeable, and the grille is covered up when not in use.

www.naturedetectives.org.uk/download/hunt_leaves.htm

oops. Wrong link! This is the one...

www.tradingdepot.co.uk/DEF/product/!!ICON15!!/?gclid=CKbZh7LL874CFSEewwodOJcAow

Ceiling recessed hoods are the best solution. Dont assume that they will go flush. That depends on the structural elements of your ceiling and the ducting possibilities available to you.

Here you go - 'scuse the kitchen mess from breakfast. Good luck with finding the solution - I recon this part of the design caused us the most stress as we had a massive new steel beam to contend with also

Falmec do a flush extractor which has an externally mounted motor so is quite quiet too. I think the effectiveness depends on the distance to the external wall - ours was somewhere about 3m of duct and it works very well. We were advised against the pop up extractors as in our volume room it would not have been terribly effective.

We were able to lower our ceiling to box in the duct - it was actually quite thin ducting and lowering was less that 10cm as far as I recall.

Thanks Grumpy - it looks good.

Ruddy Duck - what sort of extractor fan did you fit? Yes, good idea to get ducting boxed in as part of beam.

Crumpet - do you have that on the ceiling or on the wall somewhere.

Do the flush to ceiling/recessed in ceiling hoods need a motor? I also read they can be connected to an external extractor fan. What does that mean? Where do people situate the motor? Questions, questions. I am clueless. Where's the idiot's guide? I thought my stress was over having finalised a kitchen plan

One of my dh customers done this
You can build it to suit your room to hide the beam and duct and make a feature out of it

its on the ceiling above the hob, and barely noticable. No idea about the motor etc - its ultimately ducted to an outside wall, that's all I know! the children love to be the ones to sart it up and watch the panesl slowly open. its about the size of a small dinner plate and very unobtrusive.

We've just done exactly the same as Grumpy. I found it stressful too and difficult to get my head around. In fact posted on here. We were warned off the downdraft ones as not so effective for our size room.
We got a caple flush ceiling one which has lights (looks v like Grumpy's) so lights up the peninsula. The external motor fits on the outside wall of the house. There's an electric cable and ducting which we ran alongside the steel beam and then out to the outside wall. It's all boxed in so you don't see it and the hood has 20cm boxing around it like Grumpy's. It's a good solution I think.

Thanks. I think it is the way we are going to have to go. They do look good when they are done well. I hope we can replicate that. They're not cheap are they? Even the cheaper ones! How big is the motor? Is it at ground level or on the outside wall?

My one is this one link and yes it was ridiculously expensive but you need something pretty powerful to extract and pull the vapour when it's at ceiling height. We also pretty much ruled out every other option! The external motor is at ceiling height. It's a nightmare - good luck with getting something sorted that works for you

I'm not sure what make it is but it looks like these:
www.dealec.co.uk/acatalog/-Vent-Axia-Lo-Carbon-VA150-Kitchen-Fans.html
It is almost flush with the ceiling, it is white (as is ceiling) and the ducting then sits alongside the steel beam and was boxed in altogether by our builder. It then vents outside.

I got the idea from a friend who redid her kitchen - about a year later it suddenly dawned on me that she had no hood over her hob and asked her how she stopped her kitchen steaming up. She pointed to the ceiling fan which i had never noticed.

You have 3 motor options. Internal, inline and external. Inline puts the motor between the outside and the hood. External is great for quiet operation but the most expensive option.

Our external motor is also at ceiling height on the outside wall. You basically want it in a direct line for the ducting, as you want as few bends as possible and as short a line as possible for the ducting - to be as efficient & quiet as possible. We were also advised to use rigid rather than flexible ducting to cut down noise and improve efficiency.
It is all ridiculously expensive. Our kitchen units are IKEA and the effing lovely extractor fan was almost the same price as all the units. I'm still recovering and can't quite look at it at the moment as it's still too painful

Has anyone had any problems with their ceiling extractor? Is it effective enough?

It has to be properly specified and properly fitted. If both factors are adhered, its a brilliant product.

I would be interested to see pictures if you didn’t mind?

We have this, which provides both light and allows the extractor to not hang down in my face. To be honest I find it almost unnecessary—we never use the fan except if I’m cooking something particularly smoky or greasy. I would have gotten the downdraft kind, but they are 1) expensive, 2) not very powerful, and 3) take up valuable storage space. If I could do it again, I’d just get a sleek extractor that would lie nearly flush against the ceiling but wouldn’t need a box. I find the spots In the box are functional but too far up to give cozy light.