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kitchen knock through?

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higgle · 23/04/2014 15:23

We live in a house that was new 18 years ago, and still has the original kitchen. It is a 15 x 17 room at the back of the house and we also have a garden room which has glass all round, two Velux windows in a tiled roof and is 14 x 7 accessed from the kitchen via external grade sliding patio doors. There are 4 houses like ours in a development of 6 and two have knocked through into the garden room to give a big kitchen/family room and the other has just refitted the kitchen and left things as they are. We are in our 50's and too close to the end of our mortgage to want to extend it, so our new kitchen is to be funded by the lump sum on a pension falling due next year, around £15k, plus a few odd bits of savings we can drag in if we go over budget.

I'm sick of the old kitchen which is now close to falling to bits anyway and can't decide whether to knock through which would require RSJ, building regs and upgrading insulation on garden room or whether just to refit the existing good sized kitchen with nice quality units etc.

A possible compromise would be to fit some newer style doors in the "gap" between the two rooms, and bi-fold or some kind of French window type doors that also fold would be good - does anyone do anything that small - I suppose the opening is about foot wide, but at present with the sliding bit of the patio doors only opening on one side and a huge step into the garden room they don't really flow well.

Our two neighbours who have knocked through say it isn't cold but as it faces south the garden room is very hot in summer and freezing in the winter.

What should I do? DH is an engineer and could do some labouring and decorating but we want a really good finish on the kitchen so wouldn't contemplate DIY fitting.

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Lagoonablue · 23/04/2014 15:30

I think open plan is marmite. Some like it and others don't. I would think about the heating coats too!

Can you fit a table in the kitchen now? If you can the. Do you really need to open it out?

higgle · 23/04/2014 16:17

Yes, we have a table that seats 4 in a "corner" could get a bigger table in if it was round and more central. I have our big dining table that seats 8 ( proper shaker table and chairs) in the garden room, together with a sofa.

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Vinomum · 23/04/2014 16:32

We have a 1930s house which has a small galley kitchen with a dining room next to it and a very large conservatory (20' x 12') running alongside the back of the house. We need a bigger kitchen and have been trying to decide what to do and one possibility was to open up the entire space with RSJs between kitchen and dining room and conservatory. What put us off doing that was primarily the temperature issues you've mentioned (conservatory is boiling in summer and freezing in winter) and also the fact that we have two young boys and their noise can travel so we wanted to keep away from massive open space living (not a concern for you I don't think but may be for potential buyers if you ever move.

We've opted to knock through kitchen/dining room and keep the conservatory as a separate 'family room' with sofa, TV, and dining table (kitchen will have a breakfast bar), or v similar to what you have by the sounds of it. So to me your current layout sounds ideal and I would spend the money on a new kitchen and leave the layout as it is. Your budget is enough to get a decent kitchen but would be stretched if you were extending I think.

higgle · 24/04/2014 07:24

We are moving towards the idea of a better door between the two - bifold perhaps with a low threshold to make the constervatory more enticing. We might up the insulation a bit as that wouldn't be too expensive. If I can make it just a bit more liveable in then I can put a dresser with our less used stuff in it in there and keep it as our main dining area, then have an island unt with an eating ledge in the main kitchen. I must now cosy up to the neighbours and get them to divulge thier expenditure, tips and favourite kitchen fitter.

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MillyMollyMama · 24/04/2014 10:44

If I am honest, your budget could be a problem. I have an orangery kitchen with 2 glass walls and a glass roof (doors, windows and rooflights open). We have underfloor heating. This is vital in my opinion. It faces North and East. We use it all year round with no problems. I would spend money sorting out the heating in the conservatory. Radiators just do not work well enough in the winter. I would also go for the bifold doors. I prefer an open plan look, but I can see your dilemma if you do not sort out the heating. You need blinds if you face South. This will eat up your budget, but what is the alternative? A room you cannot use.

My DH would never tackle installing a kitchen so agree with you on that. We have wonderful views of our garden from the kitchen and the light is amazing. I love spending time in it. It was extremely expensive but you need to spend money to make them usable. We are nearly 60 and did take out a small loan which we will repay when we eventually move. The loan is chicken feed in comparison to the value of the house though but don't do half a job if you intend to stay in the house because you will regret it.

higgle · 24/04/2014 14:11

The "orangery" (sounds a bit too posh for what it is) has tiled roof, two velux windows and has solid brick wall all round bottom. Summer is not a problem as we just leave the doors open and have a lovely sunny room at the back of the house. It is cold in the winter though unless it is sunny. At present I have wall mounted electric convector to take the chill off if we are eating in there at lunchtime. I have devised innovative blinds I will make myself as there is a wooden section over the windows to fasten them to, suppose could get velux blinds for those windows. As it was built with the house and is not a later addition I'm not sure it would necessarily need exterior grade doors, I will check with the council about that. I'm getting quite excited about bifolds ( especially if they can be interior ones, which are nicer, with flatter floor.
Next step will be to get some design ideas.

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MillyMollyMama · 25/04/2014 00:23

Can you not get underfloor heating installed so you can actually use it comfortably in winter?

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