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Kitchen at front of the house. Please look at my floorplan and give me ideas!

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Briony32 · 24/01/2014 11:25

Hi,
I have attached a photo of the ground floor on my profile page. The kitchen is a separate room and does not work well for a family. I would like more of a family room so that the kitchen and dining area is open to the back living room. And to possibly open up the kitchen to the hallyway to make things flow better. I want to comply with building regs and am worried about openings without doors off the hallway.
The house just seems a bit dark with separate rooms (especially the old garage side of the house). It had been lived in by 6 adults before we moved in and I want to make it more of a family house whilst also considering the resale value. Any bright ideas really appreciated. Thanks oh wise mumsnetters!
My initial ideas:

  1. Knock through from kitchen to back living room area. 2)Take out cupboard by front door and make doorway into front playroom (thick old external wall). Too close to bottom of stairs for fire regs?
  2. Possibly move kitchen doorway to wider opening near middle of the house so that the hallway seems more spacious.
  3. Move washing machine out of kitchen and creating utility in downstairs bathroom so that it is a utility room with loo.
  4. or making downstairs bathroom into just a small toilet with basin room and make front playroom entrance wider so there isn't a narrow corridor anymore and the space flows from front to back Of course, we don't have a lot of money! So most effective and cheapest solution needed! I am going to try to take photos now and upload. Please excuse the mess. x
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bigbadbarry · 24/01/2014 11:34

Hello I can't access your profile - have you made it public?

Briony32 · 24/01/2014 11:58

Thanks bigbadbarry. It should be public now. Just adding more photos.

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OldBeanbagz · 24/01/2014 15:25

What's teh room to the right of the front door use for? Is this just acessed from the back? Is there room to put a door at the bottom of the stairs?

My first thoughts would be to creat a hall area by building a wall (with a glass door in it to get the light) at the end of the staircase. Basically it would be in line with the back of the room on the right. Does that make sense?

Then knock through from the kitchen into the room at the back. I wouldn't open the kitchen up to the hallway as there's all sorts of regulations involved with this.

What's the room at the back right? Is the only door off the garden? Is it worth knocking the corridor out so that are is one big room?

OnePlanOnHouzz · 24/01/2014 21:35

Hi - I had a play about with it ! All incredibly rough !! Just literally throwing ideas around ! But might give you food for thought !! Here's a link ! pinterest.com/pin/440930619739409165/

Briony32 · 24/01/2014 21:39

Hi OldBeanbagz. Thanks for the reply. We use the room to the right of the front door as a playroom but it could be another reception room but yes it is just accessed from the back so isn't used enough and seems very separate from the rest of the house. There is room to put a doorway into it from the bottom of the stairs, but I'm not sure if you have to have a certain distance from the bottom step and a door.

We had thought of putting a wall at the bottom of the hallway, but I'm not sure what we would gain from this. It wouldn't make the hallway any bigger and would mean you can only access the living room from the kitchen.

Yes I agree that opening up from kitchen to hallway is not a good idea. But we maybe we could swap the single kitchen door for double kitchen doors to make the hallway seem more spacious?

There are actually 3 back doors all next to each other at the back of the house. One double door in the living room which was a window, the original back door off the living room, and a door from the workshop area. Yes I think we need to make the back workshop area bigger but keep a loo and utility (somehow).

Just trying to add some more photos so you can see what on earth I'm on about... and trying to make the floor plans bigger.

Basically, the house started off as a 3 bedroom house with an attached garage, then a 2 storey side extension was built where the garage was (and behind it). It looks like the ground floor side extension was built as an annexe with a downstairs bathroom (with enough space I presume for wheelchair access) for a granny flat or lodger.

Does anyone know how much it would cost roughly to knock through (and replaster etc) from kitchen to living room and make a doorway at the bottom of the stairs? I'm hoping we won't need RSJs...

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Briony32 · 24/01/2014 21:42

Wow, thanks OnePlanonHouzz I must have been typing when you posted. Looks very cool, let me look at it again properly. You are a clever person.

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Briony32 · 24/01/2014 22:00

Love what you've done OnePlan. One big family room like this would be great but it would involve an RSJ. Can anyone throw a rough figure at me for doing this?
Is the long bit in the middle of the kitchen a kitchen island?
I like the idea of a row of floor to ceiling cupboards as we are currently lacking an understairs cupboard (nowhere for hoover and brooms) but think the washing machine and dryer would be too noisy in the cupboards....maybe i could stack them next to the loo.
The snug at the front of the house might still feel a bit isolated and claustrophobic.
Upstairs looks interesting. The bathroom between the 2 bedrooms in the extension is currently a jack and jill (no windows). We have a lot of bedrooms (5) but none are particularly large. I think I'm gonna have to concentrate on the ground floor layout first though.

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Briony32 · 24/01/2014 22:07

Ooops, I have put up the wrong upstairs floorplan. Am trying to find the right one now. But the changes you have made OnePlan are pretty much the same as what has been done...loo knocked into main bathroom and ensuite added to bedrooms in extension.

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OnePlanOnHouzz · 24/01/2014 22:40

I'm on the same track as your drafts person !! looks a fab project ! bet you will have real fun with it !!

Briony32 · 24/01/2014 22:53

:) What would you do if you only had £6k?

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TheZeeTeam · 24/01/2014 23:01

I love OnePlan's idea too!

OnePlanOnHouzz · 25/01/2014 08:31

well you need to maybe have a long discussion with your contractor - set up a time line - and progression plan - so you pay for what you can afford and you know what you need to save for. that way he's aware of your end plan - and that way you don't end up doing things in the wrong order and then needing to re do them further down the line ... it's all about getting a layout you like and that works for your family - and then setting a plan in motion to get it all underway ! contractors / builders have a better idea of what/how it can be done and what it will cost in your location ...

OnePlanOnHouzz · 25/01/2014 08:39

re the sketch - the long thin bit in the middle is an island ! you were right - the narrower bit on the right kitchen wall I though might work well as an open shelving area that could be used as an open pantry - maybe with skinny cupboards at base cupboard height for less attractive things to be stored !
the long run of tall cabinets would include something like the utility cupboard in this kitchen -www.houzz.com/ideabooks/22651695
but if you wanted it in the kitchen instead of the dining room - there's probably room ?!

OnePlanOnHouzz · 25/01/2014 08:40

www.houzz.com/ideabooks/2265169
forgot to make it a live link ! whoops !!

OnePlanOnHouzz · 25/01/2014 08:42

www.houzz.com/ideabooks/22651695
that's not the right link above ?! missed the 5 off !!
lol ! screens too small on this phone ( or my fingers are too fat !!) lol !!

Briony32 · 25/01/2014 18:59

Thanks OnePlan. Makes sense to set up a timeline/progression plan and try to get things in the right order.

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