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Should we move to Walthamstow?

13 replies

SurreyMum2013 · 19/01/2013 11:52

Hi,

We currently live in Surrey but are looking for cheaper areas in and around London. We need to upgrade to a 5 bed house but the prices are just too crazy here!

I've heard Walthamstow is really up and coming and that there is still time to pick up a cheap big house.

What kind of place is Walthamstow - would we be happy there? Is it safe? Ideally we want somewhere with nice independent shops and cafes (I don't work so need somewhere to spend my time!). Is there a nice community of Mums? Schools are really important - do they have private schools in Walthamstow? If not what are the state schools like?

My husband works in Canary Wharf - what is the commute like?

Thanks,

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Lozza70 · 19/01/2013 12:27

Hi there. I used to live in Walthamstow and have lived in the surrounding areas for over 20 years. From what you have said about wanting somewhere with independent shops and cafes the area of Walthamstow you would be after would be Walthamstow village or upper Walthamstow. The only issue with these areas is that they are significantly more expensive than the rest of Walthamstow in terms of housing. The village tends to have smaller terraced style houses, 3/4 bedroom and upper Walthamstow is slightly larger houses, more 1930's style. There is a good Mum network in these areas but I'm not sure about the schools. Maybe someone else can advise on that.

You will find people who cannot afford those areas of Walthamstow move to parts of Chingford like Highams Park. Great primary and secondary schools in that area, Handsworth and Oak Hill Primary and Highams Park Secondary.

Travel from this area is good with a line into Liverpool st and the Victoria Line but Canary Wharf is a bit of a faff. Better off somewhere on the Central line for that like Woodford but house prices will be more.

Windowbasket · 19/01/2013 14:04

Wouldn't be for me. I rented there for many years and bought my first house there too, a lovely Victorian terrace. But I was glad to move away, my flatmate got mugged twice, dh's car was broken into & my first buyer pulled out as the previous day a 17 year old had been left inside his car (murdered) outside his mother's house (on Mother's Day) on a neighbouring road. It was just too gritty for me. That was about 8 years ago - maybe things have improved now! I know there has been a fairly recent 'stow post with lots of people raving about the place so perhaps search for that & try and link in there for info.

DreamsTurnToGoldDust · 19/01/2013 14:13

How about wanstead? Lovely houses and nice area.

TuttoRhino · 19/01/2013 14:36

We wondered about Walthamstow but couldn't get into it in the end. We've got friends there and know lots of people who moved there after being priced out of N16, E8, etc.

We're moving to Forest Hill instead. Better commute to Canary Wharf I suspect and loads of decent primary schools about.

bakingaddict · 19/01/2013 14:53

No private schools in Walthamstow, state schools not very good apart from Walthamstow School for Girls.

Woodford and Chingford which are about 15mins away by car have private schools. In regards to being safe, it's about as safe as any other area of London. I lived there for 7 yrs and never had any problems and now I live very close between Walthamstow and Stratford. Apart from a few shops in the village, gentrifaction hasn't quite happened there yet but maybe with the Olympic village opening again this year with shops, residential properties, bars and cafes there will be an over-spill from Stratford. Although DH is pleased with Westfield being on our doorstep and we have seen the price of our house rise since we bought a few years ago

WFCouncilor · 19/01/2013 17:08

Hi, I raised my kids in Walthamstow, them moved to Highams Park and then to North Chingford. It is a great place.

There are good private schools at Forest in Walthamstow and Bancrofts in nearby Woodford. Chigwell School is little further away. My daughter commuted to City Girls. There are also good state schools. A girls Grammar School in Woodford, boys in Ilford and Latimer in nearby Enfield. There are some good state schools, especially at Highams Park.

The train service takes 30 minutes to Liverpool Street from Chingford and 22 from Walthamstow Central. There are some lovely Victorian terraced family houses in Upper Walthamstow and both Highams Park and Chingford offer larger, Edwardian semis and detached houses.

Walthamstow has an interesting high street with a very long market, there are also some more boho experiences to be had in The Village or at Wood Street. North Chingford has a nice high street, Station Road and if you go just a few hundred meters further north, you're in Essex proper, Epping Forest in fact.

If you want to get out of London, you can be on the M11 in ten minutes from central Walthamstow and on the M25 in about 15 from North Chingford.

stjames32 · 05/05/2013 08:19

Stella is a great energy and lovely person. but She did not do very good in question time. Is she doing anything apart from money sharks campaign?.Where is the local cinema campaign gone? High street is a best place to shop for anything. Farmfoods and Lidl,wilkinson are best places for good reasonable for shopping. Neighbours? racist attitude there , But some old english men. Mostly moan about foreigners (The people from wall, eastern europeans)parking attitude.Old ladies are lovely and talk to you about wartime germans and bunkers. the only bad thing is Chingford where the aristocrat and war on poor Duncan smith lives.You got everything for this hard times. One pound shop,pound a bowl,lidl and farmfoods,wilkinson,citizen advice bureau,council services office,job centre.you need some curry receips to fresh cook and cheap and feed your kids healthy. Luxury with resonable price outing? The village for nice and lovely food.If you have some smokeing needs and ???urges ,Contact the local cabbie.You dont need to be victimized.Police are aware this. Dont buy phone, laptop from white or black person, they may be police ,You may get a unneccesary caution.Teenagers(white,black,asian,boy,girl,etc,etc) are trouble if you prejudge, If they talk , talk to them politely.You won't believe the media anymore.Only read about Kim in daily mail website.Don't buy daily mail infront of anybody. hide it if you buy it. Nice parks there to take your kids and walk with dogs

milkymocha · 05/05/2013 09:25

There are some beautiful propertys there but, it is not somewhere i would choose to raise my children. My best friends live there and i would not like to go to the bus station/town center alone at night '
I went to college in neighbouring leytonstone and would not recommend the area.

Chingford/highams hill/enfield is nice.

greenbrazil · 11/06/2013 07:00

I've posted this elsewhere so apologies for repeating myself!

bakingaddict- there's Forest School which is a very famous private school, very good reputation - apart from the fact that it was the shoe bombers school!

We moved to Walthamstow over a year ago and love it, I love the fact that my children are educated with so many other cultures and backgrounds, personally for me - that's so important. I would hate my children to be educated with just the same type of people. It's diverse here and that's a huge benefit in my eyes.

We moved to the Wood Street area which is going through a lot of regeneration and the primary school is being re organised too, Woodside - St Mary's and another catholic school are also near. Have a look at this site about the area: www.e17woodstreet.co.uk

Chingford/Highams park or boring- no sense of community, a bit essexy -bit narrow minded but it depends what you like.

I do find there's a sense of community here - they're tons of interest groups to belong to.

I would say put your snobbery away if you're going to move here, be open minded, commit to making your community better for all and you'll have a great time here!

Gisla73 · 16/07/2013 12:27

I am not sure that my comments are still relevant to you but I'll offer them just in case. You ask what kind of place is Walthamstow. It's part of the London Borough of Waltham Forest: one of the most deprived local authorities in the whole country. Walthamstow is not a good place to live. We moved here in 2006 when the choice was between a smaller mortgage in the Home Counties with higher commuting costs vs. a bigger mortgage in London with smaller commuting costs and shorter journeys. We weren?t keen on moving out of London, so we went for option two. I wish we hadn?t. Walthamstow is dirty and rough. The ?public space?, the front of houses, public buildings, streets, gardens etc. are uncared for and there is a general sense of shabbiness and low expectations wherever you go. Yes, there are a few nice areas, but as soon as you step out of them the grime, dreariness and neglect are visible and palpable. Major and long thoroughfares such as Forest Road, Hoe Street, and Markhouse Road are littered with shabby shops and run-down properties. The market area, the High Street, is a pathetic eyesore from beginning to end and it's a touch threatening after dark, where there are hardly any women around. People through rubbish out on the pavement or leave large items of discarded beddings and furniture to rot in their small front garden, as if it was a normal thing to do.

As for the sense of community, frequently quoted in some quarters, I couldn?t say that I have noticed anything different from other parts of London: we say ?good morning? and ?good evening? to the neighbours on the left, and, every six months or so, we have a chat about the weather with those on the right. Very occasionally, we take in each other?s parcels and exchange Christmas card through the letterbox. That?s about it. Further down the road, on either side, properties are mostly rented and there is a continuous turnover of people from all corners of the world who stay a little while and then move on. Many of them are decent, some less so: about a year ago a number of Rumanian men rented the house two doors from ours, along the terrace, and we were frequently treated to nights of merry-making in the backyard, complete with accordion music and singing. I am not sure what they did for a living, but the front garden was always full of wood, metal and other material in various conditions of decay. They've gone now: replaced by a Polish family I believe.

The newly refurbished William Morris Gallery is a good place to spend an afternoon, but there is no other cultural life to speak of, or at least none that I would feel comfortable in joining in. At the moment, there are few decent restaurants, up on the village, and they are oversubscribed. No cinema, no theatre, no decent bars or coffe shops. A development is taking place in the centre of Walthamstow: it may increase the number of leasure venues and finally bring a cinema, but will not change in any significant way the look and feel of this miserable place.

Religion, especially Islam, are pretty much in your face.

Seriously, think carefully before moving to Walthamstow!

moogalicious · 16/07/2013 12:44

What Gisla (mostly Hmm) said. I lived in Walthamstow for 10 years and moved out 6 years ago. It was always described as 'up and coming' but I didn't see any of it!

There was no sense of community - I had a small dc and didn't make friends with anyone and not through lack of trying! In comparison, where I live now, there is a great sense of community.

The only positive I think of is it is very cosmopolitan, with people from all walks of life. Apart from that, it is quite a rough place to live.

Some of the schools WFcouncillor mentions are miles away - I went to one of them - I wouldn't fancy my kids doing that commute, which is about an hour each way for Latymer. The local state schools are not good.

moogalicious · 16/07/2013 12:46

Oh, and I used to commute into London which used to take 45 mins to an hour.

Upper Walthamstow/Walthamstow Village are expensive - I would choose to live elsewhere if I had the money.

moogalicious · 16/07/2013 12:47

ahh, old thread alert!

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