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The decluttering, cleaning, vacating, pandering, nailbiting antics of the stressed out house sellers

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Spirael · 29/11/2012 14:08

Starting a new thread, since our old one was almost full!

Anyone suffering the stresses of trying to sell a house is welcome to join us; anyone here to tell us our houses are crap and/or overpriced is not. Wink

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Movingtimes · 18/03/2013 11:00

Fingers crossed it is working out for you today, Cuddy.
I had a hopeful chat with the mortgage people today, looks like we can borrow a little more than I expected meaning a couple of houses I was looking at on Rightmove but thought we couldn't afford are now within reaching distance. But to get the space we need (three teenagers and a DH who works from home) will probably mean taking on another refurb-a-wreck project (our third in a row). All I can say is if Hampshire is so expensive thank goodness we aren't trying to move back to London. And I'm getting quite good at doing up wrecks now. (Tries not to think of the eight years spent doing up this house v the two spent actually living in it in its finished state.)

CuddyMum · 18/03/2013 16:25

Alwayslate - I'm confused at the open house for other agents. What does that mean?

I bet the EA vultures are out for you Toomuchtea! Shame there's nothing suitable coming on the market. The EAs are bombarding me this afternoon now they know I've "sold" again. Again, nowt for sale!

We saw two properties and fed back on both. We stated a figure we could pay for one that is overpriced but lovely. The vendor has simply spent way too much money for the plot but the EA isn't even interested in passing it on! We put a low offer in too on a property that would actually need a rooflift conversion to make it work but this was, as expected, rejected but we're not encouraged to offer more... hmm. All very odd. I think the best plan is to go into rented (hope something comes up!!) and then start house hunting.

CuddyMum · 18/03/2013 18:02

Blimey - how things change quickly! When we had our first buyer I was negotiating on a house (and then our buyer backed out). They then took their house off the market. I called the EA on Saturday to see if they still wanted to sell and they came back and said they are firmly staying put! Just had a call and they've thought more about it and want us to confirm our best and final price! Typically, husband unavailable when I need to talk to him. I am concerned that they are indecisive and may mess us about etc. Watch this space.

springlamb · 18/03/2013 18:44

Interesting Cuddy...
I was just saying to DH yesterday that things always have a way of working themselves out if you just sit back and let stuff happen...now I am sat here stressing and stressing and wanting to Intervene in stuff!
We all really liked the house we viewed on Sat so this morning I put in an offer. And I've heard nothing! DH is now away till Thurs so I am left here stressing on my own. Was I too cheeky? I was hoping they would come back with a counter offer, which I would have accepted with certain stuff included. It's only reasonable to give them 24 hours to mull things over and I know this, especially since my offer was below their guide price. But I wanna know...

CuddyMum · 18/03/2013 19:00

Ooh - hope you hear back tomorrow springlamb!

I've just managed to speak to DH on the phone (he's away too) and we are going in with our final offer tomorrow morning. We both were excited and were talking about the extension and new kitchen etc. I feel warm and fuzzy and I hope they accept. They too, of course, will need to vacate in a very short time. The kids on the other hand now don't seem too keen - I think probably cold feet about moving schools and leaving certain friends behind. At the end of the day, it's not too far (like 20 mins max) and I'd like them to make some different friends.

alwayslateforwork · 18/03/2013 23:50

We're in forrin, cuddy. So you sign up with a realtor who can show you every other realtor's listings as well (when we moved here we were very confused!). It's quite nice as you get someone looking out for your new place as well...

So they have an open house where they try to entice other realtors to show the property to all 'their' clients...

And then any of them can show your house (they arrange through our realtor)

My head still hurts when I think about it too hard...

CuddyMum · 19/03/2013 07:04

Wow always late! That sounds complicated indeed! Good luck :)

Tau · 19/03/2013 07:24

We're looking at local agents, but they are sooo expensive compared to our online agent. And they all want sole agency, or they become even more expensive. Would mean we'd have to up our 'lowest acceptable offer' in order to make enough out of the sale. Funnily, all agents I have spoken to stress the importance of online advertising and brag about how great they are at it, and how almost 100% of buyers only looks on the internet.
Doesn't work well to convince sellers who are with an online agent... Hmm

And does anyone else feel really uncomfortable when agents approach you uninvited saying that they have 'followed' your property online?

CuddyMum · 19/03/2013 07:48

They're full of sales patter aren't they Tau? To the point of annoyance. I wonder if the fact that they are following your property means that they feel they can sell it - otherwise they wouldn't bother. Have you identified a preferred agent, one who you feel comfortable dealing with? I have to admit, I feel more comfortable viewing and buying houses with estate agents. You might want to get them to conduct your viewings and earn their commission.

I've had a sleepless night (which really isn't like me!). I'm ready to put my best offer in but don't want to dilly dally. Husband wants to play it cool and go in lower than our best and creep up and for me to leave it until later today. Me - well I want to go in with our max when they open at 9.00 am! I don't want to play games as we don't have much time to play with and at the end of the day (sound like I'm on Jeremy Kyle) they have to move out into rented asap!

Spirael · 19/03/2013 08:59

I hope it all works out CuddyMum and that this is finally your turn to move! I've been following the thread and rooting for you. Grin

We're finally starting to get settled here. We have carpets and the important window coverings up, we have the utilities switched so we're not losing gas/CH/HW intermittently and we've discovered the reason why the plumbing kept backing up... Apparently the disgruntled unpaid contractors poured concrete down the pipes after the build went bust. Hmm

Fortunately the problem has occurred in the shared pipes on our land rather than our private ones, meaning that it's the water company's problem rather than ours. Unfortunately we only discovered this after having had to pay out initially for a private plumber. Grr!

I want to do loads of decorating and get loads more things like blinds, storage furniture, etc... But we're currently scraping the bottom of the barrel thanks to our unscrupulous gazundering buyers robbing every penny we had [bitter], so just sitting tight for the time being and living out of boxes with scraps of fabric pinned over certain windows until the finances recover!

Still, the house is nice and the area is lovely. Though we're probably letting the area down at the moment. Wink Ah well... We'll get there with getting everything sorted, the house properly attired and all the boxes unpacked, it'll just take time!

Nice to hear things are going ok for you, marshmallowpies!

Hope you all manage to sell to nice easy buyers and move with minimal stress! :)

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CuddyMum · 19/03/2013 09:20

So glad you're settling in Spirael. Shame about the plumbing etc! You'll get there. It's tempting (and often impossible) to do each and every job straight away. At least your ideas will have time to evolve slowly whilst you save up.

I've just put forward my best and final offer and await to hear. If they say no then it's back to looking for a rented (which I really didn't want to do).

Toomuchtea · 19/03/2013 11:55

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CuddyMum · 19/03/2013 12:32

I have everything crossed - I'm so impatient. I wish they'd just say yes or no.

CuddyMum · 19/03/2013 16:16

They said no :(

HousewifeFromArimathea · 19/03/2013 17:44

I've been keeping up with this thread and I'm sorry to hear that cuddy. Is there anything to rent? Or are you considering upping your offer.

Good luck Smile

CuddyMum · 19/03/2013 18:13

Bugger all to rent! I'll sleep on it (or rather stay awake all night thinking about it) :)

Toomuchtea · 19/03/2013 18:16

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sailorsgal · 19/03/2013 18:25

Sorry to hear that Cuddymum

HousewifeFromArimathea · 19/03/2013 19:50

That's a good idea I reckon cuddy.

Hope everything goes smoothly from now on for us all!

CuddyMum · 19/03/2013 19:57

Yes, tomorrow is another day! Just as the kids have started to come back round to the idea of changing schools too.

marshmallowpies · 19/03/2013 21:31

Spirael what a pain to have to deal with problems left by dodgy builders - same happened to friends of mine who bought a Victorian property which had been renovated by a developer who cut loads of corners - worst thing being a bad soldering job where the solder dripped onto a gas pipe and ate through the metal, causing a leak.

We were helping them move in, and all said we could smell gas - they called in British Gas who fortunately spotted what had happened immediately. Dreadful to think what could have happened!

Everything in our house is so dated, we can't 'blame' anyone for it being in bad condition, but amazing to think the previous owners had lived with a fuse box and various non-earthed light fittings that could very easily have killed them!

We now have a beautiful wood chip-free painted dining room, and the living room should be finished tomorrow. We have budgeted for fitted bookshelves in both the rooms once they are decorated, and new curtains in the living room. Apart from that we are keeping emergency funds for any work that needs doing on the roof, gutters, etc, but no more big expenses this year, I hope.

Movingtimes thanks for the v useful kitchen advice - I agree that big cupboards for pots & pans are essential. I'd be tempted to go for some of the deep drawers, too, as you can get a lot into those, I wish I'd had them in my old kitchen (which was Howdens, too!

Anyone else planning building works in your new home - worth looking up the Shelter 'Architect in your House' scheme - in return for a donation to Shelter, you are matched with a local architect and they will give you an hour's consultation about your project. A really good idea & a good cause - I might sign up to get some feedback on my plans for next year.

Cuddy - thinking positive thoughts for you, and anyone else looking for that elusive buyer!

alwayslateforwork · 19/03/2013 23:29

That plumbing sounds terrible spirael, hopefully it can be fixed quickly and (reasonably) cheaply...

Well, we had a fast ball showing today. The agent called us at five to seven this morning to ask if another realtor (who hasn't even seen the property yet because the open house isn't until next week - lol) could show it at 1pm. Dh was still around (he normally leaves at 6.30 am for work, and I leave at 8am, so we ran round in circles for an hour trying desperately to make it look presentable. (And to call the dog walker and get him to take them out 1245 for an hour...)

First showing done, anyway! Seems to have gone ok, but dh is away with work now until Friday, and he's getting all the realtor contact...

Waaaaaaah!

hinkyhonk · 20/03/2013 09:14

hello - been lurking while trying to decide whether to go for a big move out of london and seeing as we are putting our house on the market tomorrow it looks like we are going for it...

all highly likely to fall through as stupidly we've already found the house we want to move to in the country and now need to sell our house so we can put an offer in. hmmm chance of it all wokring out is rather slim!

spent the weekend decluttering and repainting the bathroom so fingers crossed we'll get some interest. the agent seems very optimistic that we'll get a good price and a quick sale but that is what they all say so not putting any value on their opinion. what and see i guess (difficult as i'm not really so patient)

Tau · 20/03/2013 16:21

How's it going now, Cuddymum? Are you gonna rent? Pity that... such a waste of money, and then you have the stress of having to move twice! Ugh.

I'm a little worried about all your stories about blocked plumbing and rogue gas pipes... and very glad that seven years ago I decided to let the gas man take out the dodgy-looking gas fires in this house even though my partner wanted to keep them (he was out at the time). It worked out well by the way - partner liked the fireplaces that appeared much better anyway.

We've had a nice estate agent over. She was rational and reasonable - didn't try to lure us with high estimates, and it was one that we contacted instead of that they forced themselves upon us... but still the fess are so high. If we sell through our current online agent, we could accept a lower offer than if we also have to cough up the live ea fees.
And we have another viewer next week. Plus our last viewer is still interested, just hasn't made a decision yet... :-/

Tau · 20/03/2013 16:28

Question about buying:
We've seen a house we like. It is on for £165.000. It is in good decorative order apart from a hole in the bathroom ceiling. Hmm
It's been on the market for 6 months.
I've looked up other sold prices in the street and think £165000 is rather steep - what would be a reasonable offer to start with?