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Can you buy glazed doors without the glass?

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KatyMac · 04/09/2012 10:22

kind of like this?

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KatyMac · 04/09/2012 13:17

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KatyMac · 04/09/2012 17:02

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BedHog · 04/09/2012 17:07

Why do you want to? Could you just take the glass out of one.

KatyMac · 04/09/2012 18:10

Well I'd rather not pay for the glass tbh

OFSTED are worried the children could be grabbed over the top of the stair gate when we have the door open for ventilation

So this could be an internal door with no glass

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BedHog · 05/09/2012 08:47

So basically to stop children escaping/being grabbed, but allowing ventilation?

You could try a reclamation yard, they'll probably have one with some of the panes missing, so you could remove the rest, and this would be a lot cheaper. Or a local glazing company might be able to supply one unglazed. Or maybe one of those door sized insect screens that fit onto a door frame (don't know where you get them, but they have them on Neighbours).

Beanbagz · 05/09/2012 08:54

Most builders merchants will sell doors with out glass in as they are generally glazed after fitting (to save damage).

However I don't think Ofstead would approve of the door you linked to because the children could get stuck in the openings if they tried climbing out. Plus the edges may be rough.

How about soemthing like this instead?

mummytime · 05/09/2012 09:05

What you really need is a US style fly screen, You can find some on the Internet, and even instructions on making your own.

KatyMac · 05/09/2012 20:03

The concertina gate would be too big a finger trap hazard

I was going to sand the door - do you really think the holes are bigger than stairgate/cot gaps? Obviously I will measure but I thought them similar

OFSTED said a back gate like this - but it's my house & that is horrid

I already have a 40 ft drive, a 20ft ramp with a self closing gate halfway up and a stair gate - this is to replace the stairgate

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Devora · 05/09/2012 22:38

OFSTED have no taste. Your idea is much better. I can't see why it wouldn't work.

KatyMac · 06/09/2012 08:29
Grin
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VivaLeBeaver · 06/09/2012 08:46

I'm sprised ofsted said that gate was ok. My neighbour was made to remove a similar one as ofsted said kids would be able to climb up and over it. No consistency.

KatyMac · 06/09/2012 08:50

Remember this is inside my house.........at the moment there is a normal stairgate

Inconsistent? OFSTED? Grinx2

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KatyMac · 06/09/2012 18:26

Any other views or suggestions?

BTW I don't think a fly screen will work because the children lean on it to see outside (bin men/post men etc)

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PigletJohn · 06/09/2012 20:31

yes of course you can

you buy it from a place that sells doors

the one you show has very thin, weedy glazing bars that a boisterous person could crash through if they ran at it. A sturdier one, as used in front doors, where the timber is thicker to keep out burgars, would cost more. You need one with quite small panes, not a 2XG or a 2XGG, where the gap is big enough for a person to climb through.

I have a feeling it might look better in a porch, or just inside a hall or passage.

There wil probably be a door merchant in your town with a good stock and a catalogue. Measure the gap carefully. You will most likely need a door frame (this not very expensive).

Doors are best fitted by a qualified joiner, he will do a better job, much faster, than a general builder of a handyman. Ask around for a recommendation, and he can probably recommend a door and a local supplier. If money is tight you might get a second-hand one from ebay or freegle, or a friendly joiner might have one he has just taken out.

If you are likely to want to remove the door from time to time, have it hung on lift-off hinges. If you want it to automatically close, use rising but hinges.

A joiner can also make you a door or gate to fit.

Remember that a door with holes in it is not secure, as people can reach through to a lock with a key in it, or a nightlatch.

There is a type of lock that you could use, it would cost you £38.50 plus VAT and delivery from the cheapest supplier I know. I will not describe it here as it relies on subterfuge, secrecy and ignorance but I can pm you on request.

KatyMac · 06/09/2012 20:57

We did think about a made gate (about 4 ft tall) but worried about it looking like a jail (picture small slightly snotty children holding on to bars

Cost is a massive issue

The hole is 900 wide (with a low threshold for wheelchairs) & the door/gate would need to go in the width of the wall (if that makes sense0

We had thought about this lock - we are very good about not leaving the key in the lock as one time (when we had just opened) we did and a child borrowed it - it took over 2 hours for us to find it; so now it comes out and goes on a high shelf

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