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we've annoyed our neighbour..

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advisemewisely · 24/08/2012 19:33

we are a mid terrace house, 1 house each side. the gardens go down into a kinda triangle at the bottom. if you look out our back window the house on the right has a shed at the bottom of their garden, but cause of the pointy end of the garden there was an empty space behind it, roughly the same length as a fence panel. the fence that seperates us and them was their responsibility, but as they had the shed at the end there was 1 pannel missing on our side. their end panel ( on the far side seperating their garden from the path) blew down in storms, 6, or 7 yrs ago. as their shed was at the end it meant their garden was not open but ours was. so we asked them to repair either the boundry from us to them, or their far panel which had blown down, they refused, as it didnt leave their garden open. they also rented the house out privatley, so didn't care about the fences.
but it left our garden not secure and it meant the kids couldn't go out alone, as they could just wander out of the garden.
so after asking them for 4 months, and getting absolutley nowhere, to the point they wouldn't reply to calls, refused to talk to us in the street etc, we put a panel at the back of their shed, attaching it to our panel at the bottom of our garden. in doing this we gained a triangle of their garden. about 100cm by 60cm by 60cm.
this was 6 yrs ago.
today the husband knocked on the door and went batty at me, that we have stolen his land and devalued his house, and he would take us to court...
i said he was welcome to his land back, as long as he made sure that our garden was not left open again. i even told him he could use the fence panel we had put up to enclose his garden again, so ours would remain closed.
but no, thats not good enough. he wants compensation!!!
so oh wise mumsnetters, what the hell do i do????

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Iwillorderthefood · 24/08/2012 19:37

You did repeatedly ask for them to repair their fence to ensure the security of your property. Given that request was refused I think it was perfectly reasonable. I would check with citizens advice bureau / council on best way forward. Hopefully all will be resolved.

onedev · 24/08/2012 19:44

If its been 6 years, is the land yours now?? Otherwise, I don't understand? Confused

HecateHarshPants · 24/08/2012 19:45

Ignore him. Move the panel into the correct place and ignore him.

advisemewisely · 24/08/2012 19:48

if we move the panel, we are then just repairing his fence, and would have to add another panel onto it, to meet our fence at the bottom. so it will cost us more again, and out of principle, i dont want to fork out for it.

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mercibucket · 24/08/2012 19:52

What principle is this exactly?
Why can't you just put up a fence on your own land at your own expense? Bit baffled by this

mercibucket · 24/08/2012 19:52

What principle is this exactly?
Why can't you just put up a fence on your own land at your own expense? Bit baffled by this

advisemewisely · 24/08/2012 19:58

my issue was that he wouldn't sort out either of his 2 fences, the 1 on the far boundry and the 2 and a bit that seperate his garden and our garden, as it didn't benefit him. neither were our responsibility. so we fixed it in the cheapest way possible for us, nearly 7 yrs ago. i don't want to have to pay out more now to fix it again, when its something he should do. we made sure our garden was secure, it has caused him no inconvienience.

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advisemewisely · 24/08/2012 20:00

i hope its not coming accross that i want his land. i dont, if he fixes his fences he can quite happily have his bit of garden back, with no argument at all from us, it is not used by us has nothing stored there etc, the fence was only put up to secure our garden with the least cost to us.

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Lonelylou · 24/08/2012 20:02

I would just secure YOUR boundary and drop the argument. It's no good trying to score points you'll just leave yourself open to upsets. Life's too short.

...unless you're bored and like drama of course Hmm

mercibucket · 24/08/2012 20:07

Afaik it's up to him what he does with a fence on his land, unless there's something specifically in the deeds about him having the maintain a boundary fence. So he can choose to have a fence or not. I'm not surprised he's hacked off you've enclosed a bit of his garden. I can see you didn't want to steal it but people do get v territorial. I think (have to admit I'm not sure) you misunderstand the idea of ownership of boundary fences. Afaik it doesn't mean he has to repair it, just means it's not yours to repair. So you have to build your own fence if you want to do so. On your land

mercibucket · 24/08/2012 20:07

Afaik it's up to him what he does with a fence on his land, unless there's something specifically in the deeds about him having the maintain a boundary fence. So he can choose to have a fence or not. I'm not surprised he's hacked off you've enclosed a bit of his garden. I can see you didn't want to steal it but people do get v territorial. I think (have to admit I'm not sure) you misunderstand the idea of ownership of boundary fences. Afaik it doesn't mean he has to repair it, just means it's not yours to repair. So you have to build your own fence if you want to do so. On your land

akaemmafrost · 24/08/2012 20:13

Lifes too short.

Fix your own fence and forget this nonsense.

advisemewisely · 24/08/2012 20:16

its just annoying me that nearly 7 yrs ago we had to fix something that we shouldn't have had to because he didn't want to pay out for the extra fencing which went behind his shed.
i know that it is his land and he is totally welcome to it, but compensation??!

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drummerswife · 24/08/2012 20:24

why has he waited 7 years to make a fuss about it

advisemewisely · 24/08/2012 20:29

no idea.
we tried to talk to him before we did anything, we went for the cheapest resolution for ourselves at the time, anything else would have meant putting more posts in.
he was in the house when we did it. i knocked on his door and tried to get him to talk to me.
he has lived there for the 7 yrs since. so its not like he only just noticed!

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VivaLeBeaver · 24/08/2012 20:29

Well he won't get any compensation so he's been silly. But you'll have to remove that panel now and give him his land back. He's under no obligation to maintain a fence. I can kind of see why he isn't bothering as its not causing him a prroblem. Though if it were me I'd sort it. If you want the border secure you'll have to buy another fence panel and be out of pocket.

mercibucket · 24/08/2012 20:30

He's just pissed off. It looks like you've nicked his land. You've trespassed and moved the boundary fence and if he'd sold the house it could have caused him problems as the deeds and fence don't match up. He probably thinks you've done it to steal land, given you could have just put the fence panel back on the original boundary line. I sympathise with him, actually, altho I'm sure he can't really make you pay

mercibucket · 24/08/2012 20:30

He's just pissed off. It looks like you've nicked his land. You've trespassed and moved the boundary fence and if he'd sold the house it could have caused him problems as the deeds and fence don't match up. He probably thinks you've done it to steal land, given you could have just put the fence panel back on the original boundary line. I sympathise with him, actually, altho I'm sure he can't really make you pay

advisemewisely · 24/08/2012 20:32

yeah it looks like we will have to find the money to do a new section.
i can kind of undersstand why he doesn't want to put money out on fixing something he cant see or that doesn't effect him, but the other way, what we have done doesn't effect him either. he cant even get the the triangle of land cause his shed blocks it totally!

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Lonelylou · 24/08/2012 20:34

Set fire to the shed tonight and then he'll see the problem triangle properly Grin

RabidAnchovy · 24/08/2012 20:35

Get to the CAB

advisemewisely · 24/08/2012 20:36

lonelylou he is in the shed ALL the time. i think he has annoyed his wife 1 time to many, she rarely let him in the house!!

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Lonelylou · 24/08/2012 20:38

It's become his castle then, adv Wink

BustleInYourHedgerow · 24/08/2012 21:40

Do you think he's going to try and sell the house now and if you don't sort it he will have to, so he's trying to save himself some hassle?

trixymalixy · 24/08/2012 23:16

I take it if it was out up 6 years ago then your kids are now old enough to not have to have your garden totally secure. Just remove the fence panel and put it back to the way your neighbour left it years ago!