Yale keyless locks or similar - anyone got one?

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Like this?

Have any of you got one or any experience/opinion of them?

We need a new front door and while looking I came across these, they open with a fob (like a car) and a entry code.

Although it is not cheap I am tempted as my DC are just at that age where they are starting to let themselves in and it would be fab if I didn't have to worry about them remembering and not losing keys. Nevermind that it would also prevent me form locking myself out!

Apart from the cost I'm not sure that I can see any downsides, can any of you?

Look interesting but dd1 would still forget the code

if dc are likely to lose/forget keys, then they are likely to do so with a fob too, surely?

Dino Yes that's why DH and I would have the fobs and the DC could use the code, I've been thinking of one that includes numbers that mean something to us but aren't too obvious, like birth dates.

ah, I only skim read and thought you needed both

fobs are great - we have them for our alarm - both a remote set/unset (so can set from the car for eg when herding small children about) and a touch fob - touch to panel to set. they are ace.

would feel odd about having only a code entry yo the house though - if your entrance is secluded, whats to stop anyone standing there trying random codes all night?

No personal experience, but I would always want the final exit door of a house to have a lock that met the British Standard for thief-resistant locks (or preferably two, one deadlock and one nightlatch). It is usual for household insurance policies to require it.

There is no reference to the BS on the Yale webpage

Dino Seculded we aren't! So I get what you are saying but I don't think it would be a problem.

Piglet The keyless bit just operates the lock but it's the same mechanism that you'd have with a key on a composite door so that element is just as secure.
[http://www.yaledoor.co.uk/full-specification?v=1 see here]] multi point lock with BS number.

here even

ah, fair enough! our front door is around the side of the house, and thus nicely hidden from the street, so would be no good for us.

agreewith PigletJohn re: preferably more than one (decent) lock on main entry/exit points.

BS3621: 2007 is the standard for thief-resistant locks.

The Yale quotes some other standard, BS6375, which is described as
Performance of windows and doors. Classification for weathertightness and guidance on selection and specification

It might or might not have a security rating, I don't know. But BS3621 is the "gold standard" for locks. Check your insurance policy.

PAS024 appears to relate to some cylinders that are not as bad as most Eurocylinders.

That's really great info, thanks Piglet are you a locksmith?

nah, bikini-waxer.

Lol! And at my age I don't use that expression very often!

What we really need of course is central locking for the whole house! One click of the fob to lock ALL doors and windows. That is my dream and this is one step closer!

My DS thought the door would open automatically, he was disappointed it was only the lock