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WWYD - dream house with illegal annex

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hanahsaunt · 25/07/2012 19:49

Offer accepted on dream house - ticks every box with bells on not least because at the bottom of the garden the double garage has been converted to a 2 storey annex with large bedroom upstairs and living area/kitchen and bathroom downstairs (1/3 of original downstairs still has the garage doors and is used as storage space). This was the icing on the cake - we have a lot of visitors - every weekend for months on end is not uncommon - and the ability to accomodate family groups without relocating all of my (4) dc would be a joy.

But ... the conversion didn't go through building regs and hasn't been signed off. For an unspecified reason the vendor won't apply for regularisation - I think because she is worried there may be legal ramifications for her as she has been using it as a v successful B&B for the last few years. She has given us the following options (bearing in mind she needs to move at beg of Sept for work, we are chain free and can move any time and the market is slow):

  1. She rips out the conversion and restores to as it was when built i.e. downstairs double garage and upstairs playroom so the stairs would be intact but we would lose the v beautiful bathroom and the ability to put people up easily.

  2. Apply for regularisation and get works needed costed and then negotiate apt price reduction for the works to be done after completion.

  3. Go for it as is but our solicitor has said if we do that she will refer back to our mortgage co to check that they are still happy to lend on that basis - we have been through the mill to get our mortgage so reluctant to rock the mortgage boat.

The vendor is quite a scary lady and though she is clearly completely in the wrong I fear she may just put the house back on the market (though equally she needs the sale to move on).

So ... WWYD? I think we'll have to settle for option 1 and if so how much would you look to reduce the price by if losing a bedroom and a bathroom from what you thought you were buying?

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hanahsaunt · 26/07/2012 08:19

If it were valued at 50k less and she accepted a reduced offer we would be laughing - our interest rate would be 0.7% less than the current offer and our LTV would be higher. If the valuation came back we would negotiate on price because she's going to have the same problem every time she tries to sell the house otherwise.

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hanahsaunt · 26/07/2012 10:06

WOOHOO!!! Building control have confirmed that garage was indeed built as 2 storey double garage with a playroom on the upper floor - AND that because this is deemed habitable accommodation the whole building conforms to building regs and is swept up in the NHBC cert so no addition cert required for the conversion to bedroom with downstairs living area/storage.

I do think both sets of solicitors should be paying me given that it took 30 mins of research on the local council website and a phone call this morning to sort it out.

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frostyfingers · 26/07/2012 10:33

Get that in writing from whoever you spoke to, quickly before they change their mind or the rules change.

Then go back to your solicitors and point it out to them, and say that you do not expect to be charged for any of the time spent by them on looking into this....

Great news, what a relief.

hanahsaunt · 26/07/2012 10:37

Our solicitor spoke to building control and it's all sorted Smile. Just waiting for the next clangar to drop ...

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wonkylegs · 26/07/2012 10:40

Yay glad you got it sorted. I swear conveyancing solicitors just like to give you heart stopping moments.

LIZS · 26/07/2012 11:52

Excellent news !

GnomeDePlume · 26/07/2012 12:36

Great news, that is a relief for you

Northernlurker · 26/07/2012 12:44

Just seen this and read it with face like this Shock. So pleased to get to the end and see it's sorted!

panicnotanymore · 26/07/2012 13:07

I'm not sure if you know this, but if the annexe has it's own kitchen/bathroom facilities, the council will slap a second council tax rating on it and you will have to pay twice. You will get an extra bin for the privilege but that is all. You will still have to pay this even if you never use it and no one lives in it (only a 10% discount if empty in my area).

The council are not allowed to slap on an assessment until the house changes hands, which is why your vendor hasn't been assessed, but they have people who waste spend time perusing rightmove and sting people after they move in. I speak from bitter experience.

hanahsaunt · 26/07/2012 17:38

How to give a person a heart attack!!! Thankfully, having just checked on the local council website an unoccupied annexe in that council tax area is exempt from council tax. It will have a bathroom but no kitchen when we move in and we won't be installing one. Phew. There may be Wine tonight. Sooner rather than later.

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tricot39 · 26/07/2012 18:58

Great news. Glad it is sorted for you!

panicnotanymore · 26/07/2012 19:31

Wow - you're lucky with your council. I bet they even fix the roads and everything! Ours charge for everything, twice of they can, and provide sweet FA in return.

tassisssss · 26/07/2012 20:53

Just seen this HA. Wine tonight for sure I say! Sounding exciting...

tassisssss · 26/07/2012 20:53

Just seen this HA. Wine tonight for sure I say! Sounding exciting...

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