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Rented House. Flood. Asbestos. Gas Check. ARGH!

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BrittaPerry · 30/06/2012 13:28

I'm pretty sure our landlords are essentially OK, but I would like to know where we stand just in case, because I suspect this could cost them quite a lot of money and I know they are only renting out the house to save money while they live with relatives...

OK. So.

We rent a four bedroom terraced house for £595 a month. We have been here since April 2011. For the first six months we rented through a letting agency, then the landlords took over with another six month tenancy, which we haven't got round to renewing. The gas check hasn't been done, but I am pretty sure this is an oversight rather than the landlord being a knob.

The landlords are a young couple with a little boy of around the same age as our little girls, and they are living with a set of parents (I think his, as hers live in China as far as I can tell) while they set up an accountancy company. They told us they intend to get more houses on a buy to let basis, but I don't think they have yet.

We haven't once bothered them in the entire time we have been here. There are now some minor repairs that need doing - mostly leaks from water pipes that we can't fix and are reluctant to try anything drastic. We were hoping to mention them when we got the tenancy renewed but never got round to getting it sorted out. The only time the rent was late was this month, by one day, because of a problm with the bank - it is only actually due on the 1st of the month anyway, but we pay it on the 28th to make sure it goes in, but the landlords mum mentioned it yesterday (we were intending to sort it out anyway that afternoon, but we had got a bit distracted by the fact that the house was flooded)

So, yeah, the main thing. The house got flooded on Thursday. The storm drains just couldn't cope, and the entire street (and the two behind) was trying to drain into the drain at the backs of our houses. The water rose by about a foot in an hour outside the house. The neighbours were out trying to fix the drains, and I offered to help, but couldn't really do much except try to block the doors with towels and duvets because DH was stuck on the other side of Newcastle in the weather. Luckily only the floor got wet as not very much got in, although you could splash about in it- the house floor level is higher than the outside floor level. The carpet was absolutely sodden and we are waiting to see if furniture, laminate floor, kitchen units, etc will dry properly. The house stinks of damp.

OK (sorry, I'm trying to get all the details in) so we tried to ring the landlords but they are on holiday in China. The mans mum was in though, so she came round and told us to take the carpet up as soon as possible, which we did. Underneath are some old seventies style vinyl tiles, which I actually quite like, but my dad saw the picture on facebook and said they probably have asbestos. Some of the tiles round the edge are broken.

I turned the electricity off when the water started coming in, which made the security alarm start beeping. We couldn't find the number, so, after several hours (bearing in mind we had been trying to save the house contents, I had seen a few puddles turn into a foot of water in an hour whilst trying to keep the kids safe, DH had been trying to get home for four hours in thunder and lightening and really extreme rain - we were stressed) DH took the battery out.

Luckily, we have contents insurance (we only took it out on Tuesday!) so we will try to claim for our rugs and any of our furniture, food, clothes, toys etc that doesn't dry out, obviously only if the excess makes it worth it.

..I think that is it. Oh, 5yo DD1 has mild asthma, so I need to be extra careful with dust and damp etc. Both kids are, well, not traumatised exactly, but definitely more clingy and upset. (DD2 is 2.5)

So...HELP! What is our responsibility, what is the landlords, what needs to be done, etc?

Three houses were affected (we are in the middle) - the next door neighbours have lost kitchen appliances and brand new carpets, so we are lucky really. It was really scary - at the rate the water was rising, I thought we would have to be rescued if it carried on raining. It was really, really extreme weather - the type that no planning can really help with. The tyne bridge was struck by lightening. There were landslides on to the Metro tracks. Everyone is scared of clouds now :(

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LadySybildeChocolate · 30/06/2012 18:06

It depends on whether it's penetrated the skirting boards. They will have to remove them to see. Have all of the carpets been removed?

BrittaPerry · 30/06/2012 18:08

There was only the front room that had carpet, which has been removed. Laminate in hallway is starting to warp. "proper" tiles in kitchen and downstairs loo seem fine.

I don't even know where the water came from. It was worst in the furthest corner from the door. Can it come through walls?

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hellymelly · 30/06/2012 18:11

Looking at that level of water, your electrics are probably fine, as the circuit would usually be higher than that- can't be sure though! Everything should dry out fairly quickly. We regularly had floods at that sort of level (no carpets though) and the floor would be dry again (wood) in a couple of days. Is the floor concrete under the carpet? If so as long as you mop it up, and disinfect/bleach everywhere, then it should be dry and sanitised soon. Can you afford to have the tiles tested yourself ? Is it warmer weather now where you are?

LadySybildeChocolate · 30/06/2012 18:12

Water can get through almost anything. It would be underneath the laminate, so that will need pulling up. The floorboards under will be wet, so will need drying out. The tiles in the kitchen and loo should be OK, will need scrubbing with disinfectant though.

PigletJohn · 01/07/2012 00:15

you need the house (buildings) insurers on it.

They can supply big dehumidifiers, and will pay for the electricity the use (about 40p an hour each)

the wet plaster needs to come off, and be replaced when the wall is dry

the wet skirting probably needs to come up as it may rot

the carpets and all floor coverings need to come up as they will be contaminated and the floorboards and joists may rot

some of the floorboards need to come up so the void can be ventilated, and any contamination washed out.

The doors will warp.

The owners mum can't do it. You need pros. The insurers will have a panel of assessors and approved drying-out companies and builders. You have not got to find your own.

have you got the owners email address?

narmada · 02/07/2012 21:39

Re the asbestos tiles , don't worry unduly as even if they do contain it it is likely to be the less dangerous type IIRC. It being wet is a good thing also as this will help contain any fibres. just don't be tempted to go around snapping chunks off it or sanding it or anything... like you would anyway !

LineRunner · 11/07/2012 14:27

Just to say, here we are now on the 11th July, and I finally managed to speak to my insurer in the middle of a torrential rainstorm with thunder and lightning to say that I still have water in my living room, and the guy said that 'their data' wasn't showing very much rain ...

PigletJohn · 11/07/2012 16:13

send a very short letter to their Complaints Department. Head the letter

"Customer Complaint - Policy no Xnnnnnn"

they are obliged to handle official complaints seriously.

phone calls are often mis-recorded or fobbed off so letters are more effective.

LineRunner · 11/07/2012 20:11

I just watched the local news, which said today's rain was at least 2 inches falling in a few hours! I'll send a recording along with my letter.

Actually they are now sending out a man. (I wish it were you, PigletJohn, you sorted out my boiler months ago... Grin )

GrandPoohBah · 11/07/2012 20:45

Under insurance 'rules', you have to have an operational, hygienic kitchen and bathroom to make the property habitable, IIRC. Usually with a catastrophic loss the insurance company would pay for alternative accommodation for the owners, and if it were tenanted they would pay the owners for loss of rent which would leave you free to find somewhere else which is both drier and won't have such large works going on. I'd be chasing the owners if I were you; apart from anything else, floodwater is not terribly clean and could cause contamination.

LineRunner · 11/07/2012 20:51

I agree that floodwater coming in off the street could well be contaminated by unseparated fould water/rain water flow.

Being told to 'let it dry out' is crap.

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