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What constitutes 'fixtures and fittings' when buying somewhere?

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LittleMilla · 24/05/2012 12:03

We're nearing completion on our first house, very exciting.

I fear that the vendor is taking the piss somewhat. Asking £50 each for a built in over, hob and hood Hmm. And then having asked us over to see what we'd like of her shit antique furniture, is asking £100 for a brass candlabra thingy that by her own admission would bring the ceiling down with it, should she try to move it.

There are other things on the list, but I think she's taking the piss. DH has said to say that we don't want any of it now. Change of heart and all that.

Just want to know what is normal.

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minipie · 24/05/2012 12:43

I would say:

  • built in appliances are not fixtures and fittings, they are part of the house and therefore should be left for no additional £.
  • light fittings, furniture etc clearly are fixtures and fittings and it's up to you whether you want to buy them or not. If you don't, she has a duty to make good any damage when removing them (this duty is usually written into the contract or on the fixtures and fittings list- have a look. if it's not, make sure you get it written into the contract).
goingtoofast · 24/05/2012 12:47

I would say built in appliances are not. I wouldn't charge for my build in oven, hob or hood but would for my dishwasher and washing machine. Also would charge for any lamp shades wanted by the buyer and curtains.
Suprised she isn't charging you for carpet!

WhatMakesYouSay · 24/05/2012 12:51

Agree with minipie - we have just sold, and the oven, hob and hood were included. They are no different to the sink, really - they are a part of the kitchen, so she is trying her luck there.

I am also leaving the dishwasher, all the light fittings, blinds, curtain poles and curtains for no extra charge, because the new house has a built in washer, I don't like the light fittings that much, and the windows are different sizes. These were not standard, and the buyer wasn't expecting them, but is very happy that I offered to leave them!

Make sure, as minipie says, that you get everything noted in the contract and I would also make sure that you request another viewing just prior to exchange, to make sure that she hasn't ripped everything out/let the ceiling fall down. You can't guarantee that she won't then do it between exchange and completion, but you are limiting her opportunities!

yomellamoHelly · 24/05/2012 12:57

I'd say if it's mentioned on the EA's details it comes with the house. Anything else is up for negotiation. And if you're haggling over chandeliers, wall lights, curtain poles etc I'd get your solicitor to remind them that they're required to replace with working rose pendants, make good holes etc....... (Been there had that argument.)

noddyholder · 24/05/2012 12:58

Def call their bluff and say you are happy not to have any of it. Bloody cheeky!

notcitrus · 24/05/2012 13:30

What it says in the checklist the sellers give you.
If they want money for anything, I suggest just saying you don't want it then, unless you really do.

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LittleMilla · 24/05/2012 14:48

Thanks all. She's been nice as pie for the most part. Thing that galls me is that she's having her next house built for her, so I know that she doesn't need/want anything she's trying to flog us.

Going to call solicitor shortly and say we don't wnat anything and make sure she stipulates that vendor must leave everything is same state should she rip anything out.

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PigletJohn · 25/05/2012 13:14

she can't force you to buy anything, she's just trying it on to see if she can make a few extra squid a save a trip to the dump.

Some people might oblige her, I wouldn't unless it was something so nice that I would buy it if I saw it in a second-hand shop.

mistlethrush · 25/05/2012 13:19

We bought the previous occupiers range cooker from them and have put up with it for over 9 years, but it was always awful. They did specifically ask us if we minded if they took their candelabra from one room and wall lights to match - wasn't remotely to our taste so we had no problem with that Grin

typicalvirgo · 25/05/2012 14:10

Good call.

Say you don't want / need anything and leave it at that. Its amazing how you'll suddenly find things are left !

DowagersHump · 25/05/2012 14:12

You don't have to pay what she asks either. My buyer paid me only half of what I asked which was a bit bloody cheeky as it was new stuff which he really wanted (not built in) but he knew it wouldn't fit into my new house so it was just less hassle to sell it to him

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