Listed building question

[onesandwichshort]

So if a building had been listed ages ago, and then an extension built on to it after the listing, is the extension part of the listing or not?

The listing itself is terse to the point of not being much use, so is probably just the original one, it does not mention the extension (ooh, poetry). Anyone know? Thanks in advance!

Is there consent for the extension?

Hmm, interesting. Hives question is very relevant! Even if the extension is not mentioned in the listing, it will fall within the curtilage (sp?) of the listed building so you would still need conservation permission to do anything with it.

We're currently looking at knocking down a wreck of an outbuilding to rebuild, and conservation are involved as it's within the curtilage of our listed house (though conservation agree with us that there is nothing worth keeping of the old outbuilding!).

You need listed building consent for any changes within the curtilage as Poledra says. However, if the extension was not included in the original listing then obviously you will be much less restricted in what you do with it.

The only slight warning I have is that you could accidentally open a can of worms. Where I live the local Conservation Officer is very strict indeed and anyone who applies for any kind of planning permission on a listed building is very likely to end up with a full enforcement order to repair/renovate/remove anything and everything in the property that breaches listed building regs. - no matter who did it and when it was done. If you invite the local Conservation Officer to start looking then don't be surprised if they take the opportunity to look at the entire building.

The net result is that a lot of local people where I live just do unauthorised changes to the interior of listed buildings without permission and new people coming into the area end up finding they have a huge bill to restore the bodging and damage done by previous owners.

Thanks for all of that. So, yes will still need permission.

MoreBeta - I was a bit worried about that, but have had a chat with the head conservation person, who said that even if there isn't permission for it, they'd work with what we had. In his words, 'a lot of things went through on a nod and a wink' in the 1950s and 60s' so they can't say for certain whether there was permission or not.

It's always worth finding out the reason for your listing. Do you know? You will be able to find it on the national heritage website.

The listing consists of someone standing outside the front of the house and describing what they can see, no mention of the interior at all. But then it was done in 1949, and as far as I can tell no one has been back since...

Do you live near Exmoor, MoreBeta?

No I live a long way from Exmoor so you are safe.