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House need re-wiring - any advice please?

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Eggrules · 07/04/2012 09:55

Been in our 3 bed, 30's semi for 5 years and it now needs serious attention. The previous owners were keen DIYers and I dread to think what is waiting for us. We have recently had a new boiler and central heating system. Now we need to move on to the electrics. The fuse box looks new but the rest of the system is original to the house and a total disaster.

Any recommendations on selecting an electrician?
What cost can we expect to pay?
How long will it take to do?
How much mess will be made?
Would an electrician be able to re-fit an alarm system?

Thanks in advance Thanks

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PigletJohn · 07/04/2012 12:17

Rewiring a house costs the same as buying a second-hand car.

If you are in England or Wales, it is essential that you use a contractor who is a member of an Approved Persons scheme. Otherwise the only legal way to get it certificated is to notify your local council Building Control in advance and pay the inspection, testing and certification fees. This will generally work out more expensive. Nobody else can legally "do the cert" for someone else's work.

It is best to ask around friends and neighbours for a recommended local electrician. Before asking him to come round and quote, ask which self-certification scheme he is in, how long he has been a member, and is he a Domestic Installer or full member ("Domestic Installer" is a minimum level of qualification).

There are a number of schemes, you have probably heard of NICEIC but there are others.

Youe Electricity company probably has a contracting arm, you can generally rely on them to be the most expensive.

Allow for replastering and redecorating afterwards. A good electrician is generally not a good plasterer.

Have far more sockets than you think you could possibly need, especially in the kitchen. I recommend switches above the kitchen worktop controlling unswitched sockets below, at every point where you have, or anybody could ever conceivably want, an appliance. Remember that lights and sockets in the loft, garafe, shed and garden may be handy. Ask which brand of sockets and switches he usually supplies. His standard offering might be a cheap range. Crabtree, MEM and MK are well-known good-quality brands. He will quote for plain white plastic unless you specify something else.

It is dusty work, especially if he uses a wall-chasing machine. Floors will come up. It will be easier, quicker and faster if the house is empty of people, furniture and carpets.

Eggrules · 07/04/2012 13:51

Great advice, thanks PigletJohn - I will get the loft, garage & outside lights front and back done.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'switches above the kitchen worktop controlling unswitched sockets below'. We have standard double switches in at the moment.

We cannot empty the house. We live in one city and both work full time in another and so we don't know have f&f to ask. Two of our closest friends DIY their own. Confused I will ask a couple of neighbours.

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Rhubarbgarden · 07/04/2012 14:23

I would second Pigletjohn's advice about moving out during the rewiring process. I know you say it's not an option, but seriously, do reconsider. I never, ever want to live through rewiring again as long as I live. The dust, mess and general inconvenience was horrific {shuddering at the memory}.

PigletJohn · 07/04/2012 14:26

I mean, if you have for example a dishwasher under the worktop, you want to be able to plug it into a socket on the wall behind it; but you also want to be able to switch it off without pulling it out (for example, in the case of a fault), or to obviate the risk of an unattended appliance being poked by a small child, or catching fire.

So if you have a row of sockets on the wall 150mm/200mm above the worktop, it is a good idea to have the switches (for your appliances underneath, and also above like the extractor), in the same row. Then the switches will be easy to reach, and you will have no trailing flexes on show. This method of installation is very economical in labour and materials, and makes it relatively easy to add an extra point in the row if you realise later you haven't got enough. It is not a good idea to have the switches out of sight, or unclear what they all do, as this makes it more difficult to switch off an appliance in an emergency.

There is a recent fashion for putting all the appliance and light switches in a panel by the kitchen door, I'm not so keen on that.

PigletJohn · 07/04/2012 14:35

p.s.

I said "Approved Persons" scheme. I meant "Competent Persons" scheme

FIFIBEBE · 07/04/2012 14:42

It is very messy. You need to move as much of your stuff as possible. I had a few surprises as the electricians just got on with it and didn't really communicate which rooms they would be on which days. If we did it again I would ensure at least daily meetings to find out exactly what was going on. Be prepared for some redecoration and make sure carpets are protected properly.

Eggrules · 08/04/2012 08:44

I will get new carpets throughout - we have floorboards upstairs. I will look into a hotel for one/two nights. I thought the re-plastering would be messier. It hadn't occurred to me that we would need to empty furniture.

When we had a new boiler we had new central heating and the old one ripped out. I was clearly spoilt by the guys doing it. They said each night what they were doing the next day and we could move stuff out that way. They worked like Trojans and cleaned/hoovered even though we didn't expect them to.

Great advice.

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