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Would you buy a new build in a new development?

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xmyboys · 03/03/2012 17:35

I looked at a new build development this week.
I was not surprised that I loved the showhome. All new shiny beautifully presented etc
I quite like the idea of living in a development, families with similiar age children able to play in playground
My heart sank as I left the development and parts around are just not as nice, nothing wrong just a bit run down.
Not sure now???
Does anyone live in a new development, what's it really like?
Any regrets??

OP posts:
MiniCooperLover · 27/01/2016 07:26

Our house is Taylor Wimpey. We've been here 11 years (from new) and made a few changes on the way and it needs a new paint throughout but generally we are happy. Our garden is large but they were supposed to flatten it and didn't which has always annoyed me but otherwise all good. Our kitchen still looks modern, we could potentially change a few things but I'm happy. We can't hear noise from our neighbour as either.

lilypoppet · 28/01/2018 12:19

I'm very interested in buying a house built by Linden homes. I've guessed one of the responders lives on the exact same park as the one I'm looking at. So I'd be interested, although it's freehold, you have to pay maintenance charges; also the flooring is chipboard so one of the builders was having to put a screed down to even out a brand new floor! Apart from that I fell in love with the place and would be interested to hear other experiences.

sixteenapples · 28/01/2018 13:03

I did. Some time ago now however. Would do so again in the right place.

Advantages - nothing needed to be done. Everything was new and nice. No maintenance had to be done for about five years. New boiler, new kitchen, new bathroom - everything worked! I was a FTB so that was quite important to me. Good soundproofing and insulation.

Other buyers were young professionals - it was a very sociable place to live.

Disadvantages - it lost its value very quickly - there is a premium on brand new - as with cars. There was no storage and once I was in it seemed smaller than I'd thought. Not much potential to add value. Some limitations with the lease over the common areas and car parks.

KitKat1985 · 28/01/2018 13:28

We looked into buying one ourself as there are quite a few new build developments in our area. Some of the developments are okay, but we've got quite a few around here right now where I live (and I know quite a few people now who have bought them) and they are generally:

  1. Really crammed in.
  2. Dire for car parking.
  3. Only have tiny gardens.
  4. Built cheaply and full of 'niggles'.
  5. Lacking in character.
  6. Priced about 10% higher than similar sized re-sale properties.
  7. Full of hidden costs. Bear in mind that things like carpets and tiles are often not included in the advertised prices and can add thousands to the overall cost.
ElsieMc · 28/01/2018 13:28

My dd bought one eighteen months ago. In our area, there are tons of newbuilds but at exorbitant prices, generally executive type at £450,000-£500,000.

The area she has bought in is not particularly good but she is at the back of a small development which look pretty good. She has a proper hallway, not straight into living room. Living room long and wide, good size kitchen, well fitted. Downstairs cloak. Upstairs two doubles, ensuite, main bathroom, single bedroom. Looks onto a railway line which is not busy. But means no houses behind. She was going to buy the smallest and cheapest but bought the biggest instead for resale reasons. Paid £154,000 on help to buy. Also has a garden, driveway and other parking. She is very happy with it although she has had a few snarky comments from her colleagues about where it is.

The builders were nice guys. They have moved on to build the £500,000 plus houses in a nearby market town. They build to an average to good at a push standard and have told my dd the new properties they are building are of no better quality, just fancy kitchens, bathrooms in a posher area.

Whilst posters have named dodgy builders, these are the same builders working under the name of the next company they are employed by ie a reputable company. I also understand that one very reputable building company is now owned by Persimmon.

Price wise, there are some town houses nearby on a better but busy road at around £265,000. They are not selling. When a valuer from a local building society Estate Agency valued ours last year, she told me that they were not valuing up for these properties and this is why they have not sold. Simply put- far too much.

My dd's estate was the only sell out in the area with a waiting list.

I would have several looks around op. My dd certainly does not regret her buy. She was paying £550 to rent a 2 bed terrace. She is paying the same for a 3 bed semi with gardens which she owns and it is freehold.

sulee · 28/01/2018 18:57

No. I lived in a new house some years ago on a tiny development and hated it. I would never repeat for all the reasons others have stated - expensive for what you get, teeny gardens, dire parking, small rooms and no character. Never again!

user1487194234 · 28/01/2018 20:28

I would never buy a new build

HidingFromTheWorld · 28/01/2018 23:44

We moved from a 3 year old Persimmon new build last year after admitting we’d had enough. After we’d moved in, planning permission was granted for an additional two phases of construction, meaning our road would be subject to excess traffic for a further 3-5 years. The access routes to and from the estate became a huge congestion problem. Due to the volume of houses being constructed, the local GP surgery couldn’t cope with demand, with appointments being very difficult to obtain and the schools are massively oversubscribed.

The management firm responsible for the green spaces was useless and still owe us money. The roads haven’t been adopted as Persimmon haven’t completed the necessary paperwork, even though the council have requested it many times.

The construction of the houses themselves was appalling and we had issues right up to the day we moved.

We now live in a new build from a local builder whose quality and attention to detail knocks the socks off Persimmon. Our village is small, our GP surgery is amazing and our snagging list here consisted of cosmetic areas only and, at most, about 6 things.

Our snagging list with Persimmon, after one week, was several A4 sheets long and they were terrible with every aspect of resolution.

Do your homework, think it through and don’t be swayed by the showhomes!

dotdotdotmustdash · 29/01/2018 01:17

There's a new Taylor Wimpy development going up in my village. There are about 50 3/4 bed detached homes.

I'm not impressed at all. The are tiny gaps between the houses, probably enough to pull a bin down but not enough to feel properly 'detached' from your neighbours. There are no pavements which obviously saves the builders space but makes it impossible for guest to park, or any house which has more than 2 cars.

For the money there are much, much bigger and better older homes available in this area. I wouldn't touch these with a bargepole.

The village council and residents tried very hard to stop the development as it ruins the entrance to the village (blocks an entire countryside aspect) so the new residents probably won't be made to feel welcome initially.

lilypoppet · 29/01/2018 02:56

My husband is a builder and he worked for Persimmon and yes he says they are bad. The development we looked at had chipboard floors which are uneven and won't last many years. They were having a screed a brand new floor n the kitchen. A brand new floor should be immaculate but someone looking at costs had decided to save a bit by using cheap materials knowing most buyers won't notice. In about ten years or so those floors might need replacing as they are made of little more than cardboard.

NurseryFightClub · 29/01/2018 06:50

We almost bought a new build off plan, we were filling out paper work and got a phone call to say it had been sold. Only wanted this particular plot as had a big garden, so we walked away. I'm glad we did bought an old house as a renovation project. Drove past completed estate at Christmas and they feel very jammed in together, especially with extra cars visiting.

lilypoppet · 29/01/2018 07:18

I asked to see the one that hadn't been done up as a show home. There was a young builder in it laying down a vinyl floor in the kitchen. He told the agent this has got to come up and then when he saw me he went quiet. When I went back the floor was all screeded so we couldn't walk on it. That's when alarm bells rang. Also the walls are only brick built on the outside. They are not solid
So if you buy an older home you get better built for less money. Also although it's freehold you pay maintenance charges for repairs your local council would normally be responsible for. Do you pay twice maintenance bill plus council tax. And that maintenance contract can be sold in to another company who could put the charges up in future.

whiskyowl · 29/01/2018 08:39

It would depend entirely on the development.

Would I move into a classic Barratt/Wimpey/Persimmon-style new build? No! I hate that style of architecture, I find the rooms inconveniently small and stuff, and there's often horrible corner-cutting on the basics. But there are some really lovely, high-quality new builds out there where much better use is made of materials and space.

whiskyowl · 29/01/2018 08:39

*stuffy

JaniceBattersby · 29/01/2018 11:20

No, I wouldn’t. I’d rather stay in my much cheaper, well-built 1970s home with a big garden in a little cul-de-sac with lots of room to extend.

I think it’s so easy to go and be dazzled by a new show home but to ignore the realities of what new spectated are often like. I’ve done loads of stories on them in the past few years (local reporter) and some of the issues are:

Shoddy build quality
Small gardens
Not enough parking
Roads not wide enough
Development stalling (houses not selling quick enough) meaning builders on site for years and years
S106 obligations not fulfilled for years (meaning no school, no parks, shops etc)
Houses won’t sell on because new ones at the same price are being newly built on same estate
Roads not being competed so local authority refuses to adopt, therefore maintenance not being completed
Developers going bust so difficult to get problems fixed
And by far the most complaints I see are about having to pay high ongoing fees (freehold, service charges) for absolutely zero return, making it impossible to sell your house on if you want to move.

JaniceBattersby · 29/01/2018 11:22

My husband is in the building trade and works for some high-end local developers who build v high quality homes in clusters of five or six. I would absolutely buy one of those.

Whatthefoxgoingon · 29/01/2018 11:38

Nope. I find them soulless and shoddy in quality. Often crammed in with as many bedrooms possible, with poor living space downstairs.

I would absolutely buy a bespoke new build house built to exacting specs, but not a generic one built by a company solely to maximise profits.

ExConstance · 29/01/2018 12:16

We did, 22 years ago, and have been very happy with our 4 bed house in a development of 6. We looked at loads of old cottages before we moved. The disadvantages of older houses are that in general you need to do a lot of work, they have problems such as downstairs bathrooms, possibly only one loo (we have 4) and the garage is generally falling down. Our builders dealt with snagging very quickly. The house has been great for bringing up a family, our children made friends with the children in the other new houses and the original inhabitants were sociable and friendly.

Now we are getting ready to downsize and I suspect we will have to repeat the exercise, I want a big living and entertaining space and that only seems possible in new house.

One thing you really need to do is to set up a fund from when you move into a new house and save up for things that will need to be done in the future. We didn't do this and had to find £25K for a new kitchen by raiding our savings for other things. This year we will replace the 80's style fireplace with something more up to date and over the next couple of years, if we are staying, will need to tackle the bathroom and ensuites.

user1487449333 · 29/01/2018 17:57

I wouldn’t and actively avoid them. The ones near to me are poor quality, jammed pack and seem to be a hot bed for trouble.

Plus, they’re really over priced in most instances. A friend purchased one of a well known name and is struggling to sell it for the purchase price, realistically those houses are going to be at their best when they were first built.

user1487449333 · 29/01/2018 17:59

Of course, if it’s a small development (10 houses and under) built by a local builder with a good reputation then that might make a difference, seems to be the mass produced ones are the worst.

usernotfound0000 · 01/02/2018 15:42

We did and are again.

Current house is a 3 story town house, lovely size rooms, definitely not boxes, been here 5 years and had no major issues. Lovely big garden, not had any maintenance issues that have come up in that time. Also, don't believe that all new builds have paper thin walls, we had dogs living either side of us that we didn't know about until we saw them. Current neighbour is partial to some death metal, but we only this from talking to them as he apologised in case we could hear the noise (we didn't hear a thing).

We're moving soon into another new build. Just be wary of some developers, do you research, speak to people that currently live their if they have already moved in.

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