Traditional-looking spots for kitchen?g9 or gu10bulbs?

[teta]

Is there such a thing?.The best i can find is the Valencia fitting in john Lewis so far .Anyone else know of one?.Also what bulb do i get for low-energy lighting?.

Hello Teta

I am afraid I don't know the answer to this but will follow the thread myself.

I was wondering if I could ask you about your kitchen colour scheme. I know from a couple of kitchen threads that you have given it lots of thought. If I buy another F + B tester pot I will go mad. I was going for just the same colours as you in a dark Edwardian kitchen diner but when I tried the testers they looked a bit drab/cold and too grey to go with my travertine floor tile sample. Is yours in yet Please reassure me it will look really nice and that I don't need to go for Joa's white or something warmer which I don't naturally like....

I haven't started painting yet as the kitchen is still being installed.There is still a fair amount of work to do and painter today suggested that he do it when everything else has been done.I looked at the colours yesterday in daylight and they looked ok [just like stony colours].I need to check them in artificial light.So far i know that Teresas Green works in the utility and Farrows cream works in the bootroom.I haven't yet ordered Skimming Stone and Elephants Breath and i think i will probably get them colour-matched with Dulux satinwood [for xtra toughness with 4 dc's].Strong White looks fine on the walls i think ,though Lime White looks nearly as nice ,as does Pointing.I have put in an enormous rooflight in my kitchen extension and i think probably the light is now very different and far less gloomy than before.If you are not happy keep on trying as there is nothing worse than living with the wrong colour [to me anyway!]

I would strongly recommend the LED lamps such as this gu10 type, they use next to no energy, last longer, generate no heat and are enviromentally friendly. They will fit all standard mains powered gu10 fitments and do not discolour any paintwork due to almost zero heat output, they come in a range of power outputs and different colours so you can experiment. I have done my entire house with the low voltage led type lamps and they cost practically nothing to run. Have a look at this link and visit some showrooms to see their benefits and do not be afraid to play with different colours... www.maplin.co.uk/gu10-mains-voltage-led-lamps-35331?c=5716&u=shop_l86ak

we have spots with gu5.6 I think - no idea what that means though - just that the electrician didn't like gu10s... not sure why though

Standard GU10 lamps have a very short life and are prone to failure due to vibration and they generate a lot of heat which can both be dangerous and will also discolour paint, the LED type does not have these problems.

They look really cool Conculainey.The electrician has installed led spots in the 2 extensions and they are warm and lovely.Where i am having problems is in the kitchen where i have an old lathe and plaster ceiling [with large cracks in so i dare not touch!].I need spots on a wire or plate and low-energy ones or led ones.I am looking for a traditional design and some are gu10 -which are not low-energy bulbs i think[but i am no expert!].Electrician has told me to pick my own design [as i am fussy] but has said that gu10 are compatible with led lights?I am in a total muddle.This is about as much fun as choosing Lea and Perrin taps[Perrin and Rowe] today [i still have no idea what Pewter taps look like?].

Pewter taps are a dull gun metal colour and I would recommend them as you will not be cleaning them every 5 minutes, they come in 2 normal forms , one being a grey/silver antique finish and another which is a bit more modern in colour but not as nice imo, there is also an antique brass type available and insist on buying the type were the seals can be replaced easily as this will save you a fortune over the years.
You could simply cover the old ceiling with new sheets of plasterboard to hide the old ceiling or pull it down altogether (recommended). The LED lamps generate no heat so will not damage your old ceiling in the same ways as hot halogen /filament type lamps would so you should not have a problem there, for your intrest there are various types of GU10 which only means the type of fitment (push and turn)

Have a look at this link, the company is called CPC and their products, prices and service are second to none, you might see something suitable..... cpc.farnell.com/internal-lighting

I will try that again...cpc.farnell.com/internal-lighting

cpc.farnell.com/internal-lighting

Yes,ceiling is going to be recovered by plasterboard.I do not have the heart to pull down and repair [after many months of building work!].Pewter taps have been ordered[what sort of effect are perrin and rowes 4360 ones?] along with titanium granite sink [very tiny caple 50 sink to match grey slate worktop].Thank-you for the link-i will look tomorrow.I am too demoralised tonight [6 y.o. d.s. has just badly scratched new roll-top bath with toy car!].

have a look at jim lawrence? check the finishes available because even the matlock one looks quite period appropriate in certain finishes - i like the curtis ones! a little bit pricey dependingon how many you need!

Dsamm - you're good .I have just ordered 3 antique brass spots for the bootroom from the site.Have bought old french bed panels with curly [old-looking] brass hooks attached for the bootroom so these will be in keeping with the theme.I would need lots for the kitchen so i think the overall effect might be too much,so i will think about that one.

Yes, it would look odd if you had loads of them!
www.periodstylelighting.co.uk/p0/traditional-spot-lights/315400.htm
couple of inset to ceiling type ones there? casab?
that one seems to be the exception - but mainly the deal seems to be normal modern inset type ones or the traditional/period companies do ones that are the sort that sit out in a little bell shape iykwim. Hope you find the right thing - I shudder to think the amount of time spent finding these bits and pieces - it's all ahead of me!

How are the kitchen units looking so far? I'm still dithering badly. Slate worktop sounds interesting too?

Kitchen units are looking good-are fitted [you do need a good joiner to fit these!] but awaiting a paint job and worktop.The slate is being reused from our original pantry.Its does need repolishing and recutting though.I am waiting for the tiny prep sink and taps to turn up before templating .Its the final bits that are the fiddliest tbw.

How are you for headroom?

These are a bit different and would be low energy (you can get much better quality tubes now than the old ones)

www.periodstylelighting.co.uk/p0/traditional-spot-lights/315400.htm
www.thelightingsuperstore.co.uk/product.asp?productid=54420
www.enlightenmentbydesign.co.uk/traditional-lighting/2560/ct/sectionsearch.php
with GU10 LED bulbs in a warm white

but to be honest we have 11 brass www.lamps2udirect.com/pages/fullProd.php/Robus_Spring_Loaded_GU10_Adjustable_Brass_Downlight/135537
in our kitchen with GU10 warm white bulbs and undercounter fluorescents on separate circuit

its not too much!

Have ended up buying Waverley brass spotlights from B & Q.they actually look quite well made for the price [along similar lines to the Jim Lawrence but much cheaper].I am still not sure whether the overall effect will be very OTT.Now i have to find a verdigris effect wall lantern for outside the patio doors which are going to be painted in Dix Blue.[why are they all about 300 pounds?].