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Please help me plan my new (small) kitchen

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extremelychocolateymilkroll · 18/02/2011 22:57

Have already posted this in Good Housekeeping and had some great responses but thought I'd try here as well. Have been advised to get quotes from independents and if anyone can recommend someone good in the London area I'd be really grateful.

This is very exciting. We are finally getting a new kitchen. Have never been able to design a kitchen where I have lived before so a bit heady with the thrill of it. We have a small space - rectangular shape 200cm x 300cm but it's quite a high ceiling. We were going to have a split level oven and hob and I had forgotten about getting a hood extractor so that will take up more space but it's probably going to be more efficient with space to have the hob above the oven. Also, even though I do bake quite a bit, I wonder how often will I be bending down to look at the oven to make it vital to have a split level arrangement.

Because the ceiling is high the units can be tall but I guess it's not going to improve access as I don't think you can get larder style cupboards which start above the work surface. I suppose the best thing to do is get the Lakeland add a shelf solution. We are planning to get pull out deep drawers on the lower units and a carousel for the corner unit.

The other thing that is bothering me is where to put the bin. At the moment, as there is very little space on the floor, we have a carrier bag hanging on the door which is obviously not a great solution. Ideally I'd like a sensor type bin in a unit without a door so I could get to it easily but this seems to be very difficult as the only space we'll have will be under the sink. Also, I'm not sure where to put the recycling which is currently a plastic bag stuck on top of the dishwasher.

We're also planning on getting a sliding door to maximise space. Has anyone ever done this and if so did it allow much noise through? TIA

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KristinaM · 19/02/2011 00:12

If you Bake and cook a lot you might want to think about a double oven

Could you have your oven in the middle of a tall unit to save you bending down? You could have your microwave above it.

You can store items you don't use often in the top of your tall units

If you don't sort out your bins you are wasting your money on a new kitchen, it will never look nice with plastic bags om the doors! I have 4 recycling bins, 2 under each sink unit. They are from Ikea and were v cheap

KristinaM · 19/02/2011 00:15

I've never had a sliding door so can't comment. Woud it help to chAnge the way the door hangs, this also costs peanuts

I don't know what you mean about not being able to get larder cupboards that start on the worktop . Sorry if I'm being dim

teta · 19/02/2011 10:31

I think you need storage for bins.I have planned 2 large base cupboards that pull out with integral bins in them and under-basin recycling bins that also pull out.One large one in the island and one large one next to the dishwasher and sink.

blackeyedsusan · 19/02/2011 14:20

we have an electric cooker with just 1oven/grill combined. I would recomend a double as it is a pain when cooking for a big dinner/ special occasion.

I like my oven under the hob. I can out hot things from the oven onto the hob. I didn't like an eye level grill on holiday. there was nowhere to put hot things. I have the microwave in the corner of the worksurface so i am not juggling hot things trying to find somewhere to put it down.

CarGirl · 19/02/2011 17:03

Johnluke kitchens in enfield is supposed to be fantastic, don't know any fitters though.

TracyK · 19/02/2011 17:40

I got a split level oven from Habitat - the top oven/grill is a lot bigger than any others I've seen and so I only use the main oven on Xmas day!

I have my hob then a 500mm unit then split oven - so I have 500mm worksurface or hob (within arms reach) to take stuff from oven and plop down hot stuff.

The extractor fan I got is the one with 'wings' at either side - so can be used for storage/display of lighter items - eg herbs, oils utensils etc.

Try and get your dishwasher next to/near sink for rinsing/tipping stuff and then straight into dishwasher.

Do you have room outside your back door (garden) to put the recycling bins? I tend to store up a wee bundle of stuff and then have the bins just outside the backdoor - so I can do a bin run every couple of hours. iykwim

maryjane71 · 21/02/2011 21:23

I'm also planning my new kitchen and have had two quotes so far Shock. Get a designer round from a local company for ideas. They will ask how much you cook/entertain etc. and come up with ideas you hadn't even thought of! What sort of budget are you working with? I agree it's very exciting Grin.

extremelychocolateymilkroll · 23/02/2011 23:28

Thanks so much for taking the time to post such good ideas. Have discovered that you can get compact, inbuilt extractor hoods which will take up much less room than I thought.

KristinaM - I was trying to think of ways of maximising access to cupboards which fit above the worktops. I think we'll have room for a full length larder and will have to be happy with that.

TracyK - unfortunately we only have a small flat so no back door and no garden.

maryjane It is exciting isn't it? We had a quote from John Lewis yesterday for £11k for the Vermont range, including an oven+hob and a sink. Work tops Corian. Not sure about the colour for the work surfaces as we were going to go for a contrast - cream for units and medium grey for the surfaces but someone recommended going for light coloured surfaces to maximise the light as it a small kitchen. Difficult to picture as all the kitchen in John Lewis have a contrast but think this will be what we go with.

Our builder is saying that he would recommend Howdens as it's better quality than John Lewis. I don't really know anything about Howdens but got the impression that it would be cheaper quality wise - does anyone have experience of their kitchens? TIA

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KristinaM · 24/02/2011 08:19

Does that 11k include,IDE worktops and fitting? It seems a lot to me but I guess corain is v expensive. My units were only 5k and our kitchens big but that was only the units.the granite was 1800 and the wooden worktops about 5-600. Sinkss and taps were very cheap and we have an aga so no oven or hob. We were about another 1k IIRC for fridge, microwave and dishwasher ( we have 2 but had one already in the old kitchen)

What colour is your floor as that's probably a bigger area than your work tops? And it's harder to keep a light coloured floor clean.

I jhave not used howdens but have heard they are excellent

TracyK · 25/02/2011 16:59

I had Howdens units - quite a lot of them for £3k (about 4yrs ago) and very happy with them.

Corian is expensive - we couldn't justify it as we had such a large area - it would have been about £6k for it!

I got a caramelly coloured ceramic tile on the floor. It's ok to keep clean - you can see the dirt - but comes up looking lovely with a sweep and an ocassional e mopping.

KristinaM · 03/03/2011 21:18

Thanks for the Howdens tip. Our DD has just bought a flat so I'm going to howdens tomorrow with her to check out the units. Their kitchen is also rectangular so it will be a u shaped, units approximate 2.8m each side. Budget is WAY under £11 k Grin I shall report back

crw1234 · 06/03/2011 19:43

Double oven definatly - really regretted not getting one when i got my new kitchen
I am not a big fan of carousel I think other solutions for corners can actually be better and cheaper
and get at least 3 designs and keep thinking what will work for you

do you need a door - we just had our last v small kitchen through to the living room and it was fine

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