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Has anyone built their own house?

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Sinkingfeeling · 30/08/2010 18:47

Something we've been thinking about for ages and now know we would need to do within the next couple of years, if we're ever going to do it. Any experiences/tips?

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theyoungvisiter · 30/08/2010 18:52

as in like with your bare hands, or grand designs style?

(Neither by the way - was just curious about what you were contemplating!)

ib · 30/08/2010 18:53

Yes, do you mean do the actual work or get a builder to do a new house for you?

oricella · 30/08/2010 18:56

Keeping my eye on this.. we've just finalized the plans for ours, going in for planning permission over the next week or so

Sinkingfeeling · 30/08/2010 18:56

Oh sorry, that does sound odd now I read it back. I mean buy a plot of land and employ a builder to build the house - we could do some of the internal work ourselves though. DH has done plumbing, plastering, tiling and decorating in our current house. I don't really mean a grand design, just a house that we have had some input into designing.

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lalalonglegs · 30/08/2010 19:18

I haven't done it myself but do speak to a lot of people who do as part of my job. What do you want to know exactly?

Sinkingfeeling · 30/08/2010 20:30

Lala I'd like to know:

  • how others have found their land, as we're expecting this to be hard

  • how they've financed the build - have they sold their own house first, or needed a special mortgage and how hard it was to obtain

  • how long the build took, and whether they employed one contractor to oversee everything or used subcontractors for some of the work

  • whether they lived on site while the build was happening

  • how they budgeted and whether the final build came in way over the initial costs

  • whether they'd do it again or never consider it!

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lalalonglegs · 30/08/2010 20:52

OK, finding land: it varies but is easiest if you are hoping to build in the area in which you alredy live. Often it's a case of pounding the streets, looking for likely plots and then researching ownership at the Land Reg or approaching owners with a large garden to see if they will sell part (although new legislation means that it may be harder to build on gardens from now on). Some land comes up in auctions and through estate agents but the best sites rarely come on the market, it's a question of persistence and seeing potential. In areas such as London and the south east, the only way to do it realistically is to buy an existing house and either sub-divide the plot or knock it down and rebuild something you lie better.

Finance - well it depends, some people have savings etc, some have enough equity in their current home but there are also mortgages from specialist lenders (there was an internet based provider called Buildstore and the Ecology BS also loaned for self-build but I haven't really looked into this since the financial crisis, I don't know if they still do). If you need one of these mortgages, the advantage is that they lend in stages so if you need, say, #300k for the build, they will lend you #50k to begin with and then when you reach an agreed stage, another chunk. That way you aren't payin interest on the whole amount from day 1.

How long the build takes depends on the size of the house, the design, the site, the method (timber frame, block work, SIPS etc) - impossible to say but almost always at least double what they thought would be the absolute maximum.

Whether you live on site or not depends on your finances and how closely involved you want to be in the project. It seems to work out for retired couples who are viewing it as a life project together but everyone else grows pretty fed up of it pretty quickly (especially as it always takes longer - see above).

Most people who are approaching a self-build whom I meet either use a kit where the costs are fairly specific and only go badly wrong if they change things around a lot or use tender process which again means they have some control on costs. Where it goes badly wrong is where they either start off very hopeful ("I've got #250k, so that's what it will have to cost") or they think "in for a penny, in for a pound" and just keep upgrading the spec the whole time. The most important thing I can see when self-building is to nail down every last detail - every last detail - and get the spec completely watertight. That means thinking about every socket, where it will go, what it will look like, who the supplier will be etc etc.

Most people I have spoken to would do it agan but most people I see have had very successful builds and end up with something that it would be very difficult to buy. I'd say very few of them realistically make a profit (they either madly exaggerate the final worth of their house or they haven't paid the full cost of the plot etc so if you factored that in they would have broken even or perhaps made a loss).

HTH

KatyMac · 30/08/2010 20:57

No but I really really want to Sad

No chance tho'

MollysChambers · 30/08/2010 21:05

Land - gifted by my father (Thanks Dad)

Finance - sold previous house and rented from family. Build paid for from proceeds of house sale and savings. No mortgage.

Build time - approx 10 months. Did not go down sole contractor route due to prohibitive costs.

  • Compiled very detailed budget which was updated constantly. Came in about right. Remember you can claim VAT back on material costs for a new build.

  • Would not do it again (I hope). Will only move to downsize.

Sinkingfeeling · 30/08/2010 23:55

Lala thank you, that's very informative. We're in the south east so availability of land is very limited, as you point out. We would want to buy within a 20-mile radius of where we live, and have looked at small bungalows on large-ish plots of land, but the costs are too high, and I'm not sure how favourably local planners would look on demolishing an existing dwelling which is still habitable. Do you have any views on this?

We have a lot of equity in our current house, but would still need a mortgage to build. Thanks for the tip about having a water-tight spec, which would obviously need a lot of forward thinking and planning.

Thanks for your experiences too Molly, and congratulations on your new house. Do you mind me asking what area of the country you're in?

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oldnewmummy · 31/08/2010 06:44

We've done in, but in Australia where they're very geared up for it.

We bought some land (development company selling plots), I spent ages looking at builders websites and designs, picked a design we basically liked then changed it a bit e.g. more bathrooms, changing dimensions of some of the rooms.

We were very lucky as we actually did this from Singapore and nothing went wrong (touch wood). Spent a weekend trip picking tiles etc.

The only things I'd do differently are (1) more green options/insulation etc (2) power point in hall and corridor (3) different style of shower screen. So that's not bad really.

Currently has tenants, we move in on 5th January (hooray).

Probably not much use to you, though.

It was a lot of fun.

MaryBS · 31/08/2010 07:24

We looked into building our own, and were all set to buy a plot, which was part of a small development of other self-builders, through a friend who is a builder. I can recommend this magazine.

In the end we didn't go through with it, because after everything we went through in terms of getting everything right, including the mortgage, the mortgage company changed their t&c and wouldn't lend on a plot that was part of a development, only a single plot.

In a way it was a good thing though, because shortly after that DH (who is a quantity surveyor for a firm of builders - so has lots of good contacts) got really busy at work and wouldn't have been able to project manage it!

Good luck!

oricella · 31/08/2010 09:28

Hi, as far as our experience goes:

Land: we're way up north, so not as difficult as where you are, but not as easy to find as we'd hoped. We were wavering between buying and building for a long time - and eventually found a plot sooner than a house we liked

Finance: one of the reasons we decided to go for it now is that we currently have a small house and a small mortgage. With the equity and a loan from family we'll be able to build without moving. We did also look into Buildstore - they were very helpful and found us a good mortgage option for which we were basically pre-approved. We hopefully won't need it, but the option is there

On house design: we found an architect we liked and are having it designed to our wishes, which are not very grand design - low energy (considering passive), space just enough for all of us; no point in having rooms we don't need and all focussed on the garden. We're very pleased with the final plans and it is really exciting to be able to work out what works best for you and your family.

Build time: we're hoping to keep it short- we'll probably use SIPS panels and have watched a house by same architect go up from nothing to wind/water tight in under 2 months.. The actual superstructure took 3 days. So that is giving us hope it can be done in the 7-8 months we'll have

this is also a fab site for inspiration

Ask me again in a year whether I'd do it again Wink

noddyholder · 31/08/2010 14:02

No but plan to when we are a bit older as have been renovating hoses for years and really feel this is what i will do when ds either leaves home or is old enough to drive or sort himself out!land in the south east is hard to find and a shocking price but its still my dream Love that site!

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