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Preparing an average-ability boy for 7+ at top London schools

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Blink888 · 05/05/2026 14:33

Has anyone got experience of prepping an average‑ability boy for 7+ entry to the top academic schools in London (Westminster, St Paul’s, King’s)? My son is Winter born and started Reception in September 2025 at a pre‑prep that isn’t very pushy or academic, so they follow a state‑school‑style programme. He is doing fine and seems to be happy there, but I’ve noticed that I can’t really stretch him beyond the school curriculum at the moment. He’s stronger in reading and phonics, but his maths is at about average aptitude.
I’m wondering—are there any realistic chances at all for this kind of profile? Does anyone have experience with this? I’m open to starting tutoring in Year 1, but I don’t want to waste money, stress myself out, or damage his mental health.

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harrietm87 · 09/05/2026 11:12

It’s a little odd OP - why did you send him to that prep school if you wanted him to attend top schools but you knew they wouldn’t prepare him for that? He’s still in reception so it must have been a recent decision?

You might be better waiting for 11+ to give him more time to mature.

Blink888 · 09/05/2026 15:12

harrietm87 · 09/05/2026 11:12

It’s a little odd OP - why did you send him to that prep school if you wanted him to attend top schools but you knew they wouldn’t prepare him for that? He’s still in reception so it must have been a recent decision?

You might be better waiting for 11+ to give him more time to mature.

There are just several of them in different areas of London and logistics doesn’t work for us at the moment.

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NuffSaidSam · 09/05/2026 15:30

There are no realistic chances of getting an academically average child into a top London school without stress and upset for the child and parents.

It's doable if you are unbearably pushy and the child's happiness takes second place to their academic achievement.

It's worth remembering that this stress isn't just to get in - once you're in the stress will continue throughout his time at the school as he struggles to keep up with a program designed for children more able than he is and peers who find working at that level much easier.

All that said, I don't think it's possible to tell at 4/5 whether a child is academically average or not. Some children hit their stride later than others. Pick a school that your child can thrive at, not one that has a name that makes you smug at dinner parties.

Nowait · 11/05/2026 23:12

Excuse my ignorance but can someone explain how you can tell if a 5 year old, who has only done 7-8 months of school is on track to pass 7+ at a highly selective school? Are they familiar with the works of Shakespeare? Can they play an instrument at grade 5? Can they multiply in the hundreds and thousands? Surely it’s not that easy to know if your child is middle of the road or not compared to other kids? Plus, don’t they grow/catch up with each other in Year 1 anyway?

belmisof · 17/05/2026 09:18

AnnikaA · 05/05/2026 14:51

If your son is happy, averagely-able or a little above average then you are correct it’s not a good idea to rock that foundation.

Have you told the pre-prep that it’s your intention for ds to sit academic 7+ selection at the most academic and prestigious schools? You are not the only parent who wants this outcome for your child so I’d ask the school what they can do to support your DC’s accelerated learning, and ask them to build a plan with you - perhaps a separate tutor at this stage would be less helpful. I’m surprised they aren’t offering a better academic outcome given the small classes and what you are presumably paying. How many kids at the pre-prep end up at the schools you’re aiming for?

I appreciate parents are busy working (I am myself) so I would definitely ask myself what does tutoring mean at age 5? It’s probably not a great idea to tack on hours of extra lessons - too tiring.

What your kid needs is a mountain of high quality 1:1 attention which is what he should be getting a pre-prep. Lots of reading, puzzles, conversation, trips out to museums, hands-on STEM/maths/logic like chess or Monopoly or baking (weights and measures and proportions and “number sense”). Maybe a piano or violin class too. If the pre prep doesn’t offer it perhaps the right answer is to change school in y1.

Having said that:
I have plenty of friends who have been using Maths tuition schemes to tutor averagely bright kids since age 3 and their kids are miles ahead in maths of the state expected level, so this is definitely worth looking into. Kids are sponges and most can learn a lot more than they are given in the state curriculum.

I can’t say if these kids would pass one of the hardest 7+ exams. Some of them make the cut at our local super-selectives but many don’t.

I think it works well if you can tap into your child wanting to learn, enjoying it, and being keen to do more. It’s hard when it’s forced, because whilst forcing kids often does mean the work gets done, if they ultimately fail the selective exam or interview,they will have gone through a miserable few years with no reward at the end.

Hi, could you please share names of those very good tutors please?

Drivingmissrangey · 17/05/2026 09:50

Nowait · 11/05/2026 23:12

Excuse my ignorance but can someone explain how you can tell if a 5 year old, who has only done 7-8 months of school is on track to pass 7+ at a highly selective school? Are they familiar with the works of Shakespeare? Can they play an instrument at grade 5? Can they multiply in the hundreds and thousands? Surely it’s not that easy to know if your child is middle of the road or not compared to other kids? Plus, don’t they grow/catch up with each other in Year 1 anyway?

None of those things are relevant for passing the 7+ for a selective school. It’s largely based on English and maths assessment.

I would be amazed if teachers can’t tell fairly early on which pupils will turn out to the most academic across those areas. Even if they start reception at massively varying levels, the speed of progression is a strong indicator.

Blink888 · 17/05/2026 13:53

Drivingmissrangey · 17/05/2026 09:50

None of those things are relevant for passing the 7+ for a selective school. It’s largely based on English and maths assessment.

I would be amazed if teachers can’t tell fairly early on which pupils will turn out to the most academic across those areas. Even if they start reception at massively varying levels, the speed of progression is a strong indicator.

@Nowait I agree with @Drivingmissrangey Moreover, it’s not really the case that children who start off behind will just catch up. In reality, the stronger ones tend to move ahead faster and get comfortable with Year 2 material in Year 1 —which I guess is important for 7+ assessments.
There are already boys in our class reading at Oxford levels 5–6, starting from zero back in September at a non-selective prep. That’s not really surprising either—I’ve heard of even more advanced readers at this age. It’s just an example of how progress and aptitude can vary, even though we know everyone will learn to read eventually.

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javaprogrammer · 17/05/2026 14:46

@Blink888 you mean the Read with Oxford or Oxford Reading Tree level 5?
My LO will start 'Pre-reception' in September, able to read Level 1, hoping to get her up to Level 3 by the end of the academic year.

Blink888 · 17/05/2026 14:54

javaprogrammer · 17/05/2026 14:46

@Blink888 you mean the Read with Oxford or Oxford Reading Tree level 5?
My LO will start 'Pre-reception' in September, able to read Level 1, hoping to get her up to Level 3 by the end of the academic year.

Reading tree I guess. They also have band colours that are green and orange for Level 5-6

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javaprogrammer · 17/05/2026 16:15

Blink888 · 17/05/2026 14:54

Reading tree I guess. They also have band colours that are green and orange for Level 5-6

Biff, Chip, Floppy?

Blink888 · 17/05/2026 17:00

javaprogrammer · 17/05/2026 16:15

Biff, Chip, Floppy?

Yes

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SheilaFentiman · 17/05/2026 17:10

Why do you want him to leave this local and suitable school at 7 rather than 11?

javaprogrammer · 17/05/2026 19:16

Because they are targeting the top schools? It doesn't mean they won't try again at 11+ if 7+ doesn't work out.

I find it hilarious that people often ask "why" and try to persuade posters "not to", instead of providing relevant information to the questions.

KilkennyCats · 17/05/2026 19:19

javaprogrammer · 17/05/2026 19:16

Because they are targeting the top schools? It doesn't mean they won't try again at 11+ if 7+ doesn't work out.

I find it hilarious that people often ask "why" and try to persuade posters "not to", instead of providing relevant information to the questions.

I think the significant word may have been “suitable”. Seems like the top schools may not necessarily be either suitable or achievable.

javaprogrammer · 17/05/2026 19:40

The poster wants to do it, then it should be tried. It is not up to others to comment on suitability.

harrietm87 · 17/05/2026 21:23

Blink888 · 17/05/2026 13:53

@Nowait I agree with @Drivingmissrangey Moreover, it’s not really the case that children who start off behind will just catch up. In reality, the stronger ones tend to move ahead faster and get comfortable with Year 2 material in Year 1 —which I guess is important for 7+ assessments.
There are already boys in our class reading at Oxford levels 5–6, starting from zero back in September at a non-selective prep. That’s not really surprising either—I’ve heard of even more advanced readers at this age. It’s just an example of how progress and aptitude can vary, even though we know everyone will learn to read eventually.

My November born child is on orange band at a state school - there are 2 others in her class at the same level. I’d expect prep school kids - even at a non-selective prep - to be further ahead/for more of them to be at this level? The teachers only listen to my DD read every few weeks (I’m sure they focus on those who are behind expectations), whereas my niece at a prep reads to a teacher every day.

Is there a reason why you wouldn’t want to keep him where he is until 11+?

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