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South west London 11+/13+ art scholarship ( art / DT)

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Ayaboo · 03/05/2026 08:34

Dummies here .
Totally clueless where to start .

richmknd Chelsea Chiswick Surrey kingston area only.

pity it is not gender Seperate alike ballet admission ,
otherwise boys have more % chance in art scholarship .

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SleepyLabrador · 07/05/2026 14:52

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Ayaboo · 07/05/2026 19:11

Yu are amazing .
thanks !
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EdgarAllenRaven · 08/05/2026 11:34

Also Surbiton, St Catherine’s in Twickenham and Kingston Grammar School

hockeyfun · 08/05/2026 12:44

You know the fees discount for an arts scholarship is small, ie 5-10%, and your dd has to pass the academic exam.

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Ayaboo · 14/05/2026 17:08

What happens ??? I can not see her reply

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hockeyfun · 14/05/2026 17:55

@Ayaboo, it included a link to a document

Goodmorningeveryone26 · 14/05/2026 18:13

OP, I’m not trying to be a dick but if yours is a genuine post you might want to make a bit more effort to explain yourself and what you are after using full sentences

Ayaboo · 15/05/2026 06:23

hockeyfun · 08/05/2026 12:44

You know the fees discount for an arts scholarship is small, ie 5-10%, and your dd has to pass the academic exam.

£35 scholarships
😫

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McSpoot · 15/05/2026 06:31

Ayaboo · 15/05/2026 06:23

£35 scholarships
😫

The tuition is only 350 to 700?

Ayaboo · 15/05/2026 06:52

That’s an interesting question, and schools do quietly think about it — but art scholarships are usually handled differently from chess, ballet, or some sports because selectors argue that visual art develops differently across children and isn’t divided by sex in the same measurable way as physical performance.
In practice though, there can be gender imbalance.
For example:

  • ballet often separates boys because far fewer boys participate, and schools want to encourage male dancers
  • chess sometimes separates categories to improve female participation in a historically male-dominated field
  • sport separates largely because of physical development/puberty differences
Art is generally judged as:
  • portfolio quality
  • originality
  • observation
  • creative thinking
rather than direct physical competition. However, your point about fairness in admissions is real because:
  • girls often mature earlier visually and verbally around 10–13
  • girls may produce more polished portfolios younger
  • boys sometimes develop later but show equal long-term potential
  • schools may unconsciously reward “neatness” or presentation style
Some boys’ schools partly solve this indirectly because applicants are already single-sex. So at:
  • Hampton School
  • St Paul's School
  • Whitgift School
…the art scholarship pool is only boys anyway. Co-ed schools can be more mixed. Some Heads of Art deliberately look for:
  • raw creativity
  • spatial thinking
  • risk-taking
  • originality
rather than just polished sketchbooks, partly to avoid favouring early-maturing candidates. There’s also another reality: many independent schools use scholarships partly strategically. They may recruit:
  • sporty boys
  • musicians
  • artists
  • actors
to strengthen the school community overall, not purely rank children objectively. So while there usually isn’t formal gender separation in art scholarships, admissions teams often do think about balance, potential, and representation informally. Your comparison is reasonable because all these scholarships are ultimately talent-identification systems — they just define “fairness” differently depending on the activity
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EdgarAllenRaven · 15/05/2026 09:22

I am also a bit confused by the post, I have never heard of ballet or chess scholarships.
Ive suggested some schools that offer the Art one in those areas, I thought you were seeking help?

It sounds like you have a DS and want a boy’s school or co-ed? How can we help?

Ayaboo · 15/05/2026 12:49

Some people argue that art scholarships in co-educational schools are unfair to boys. They believe that boys and girls are often encouraged differently in creative subjects, which can affect scholarship results. In many co-ed schools, girls may participate more in art clubs, portfolio preparation, and exhibitions. As a result, they may appear stronger during the selection process, even when boys also have artistic talent.
Because of this, some boys may feel discouraged or believe that the system does not recognize their abilities equally. In contrast, all-boys schools can create a more balanced environment for male students because they compete only with other boys. This may increase confidence and encourage greater participation in art programs.
However, others disagree with this opinion. They argue that art scholarships are usually awarded based on talent, creativity, hard work, and originality, not gender. Judges often use clear criteria to evaluate student work fairly. If more girls win scholarships, it may simply reflect stronger portfolios or greater interest in art at that time.
In conclusion, while some boys may feel disadvantaged in co-educational schools, fairness in art scholarships depends more on the selection process and individual effort than on whether a school is co-ed or all-boys. Schools should ensure that every student has equal encouragement and opportunities to develop artistic skills.

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McSpoot · 15/05/2026 12:49

Do you actually have a question? Or is this just a thread for you to post ChatGPT garbage?

OrangeJellySnakes · 15/05/2026 12:57

Maybe the AI overlords have already taken us over.

Ayaboo · 15/05/2026 12:58

hockeyfun · 08/05/2026 12:44

You know the fees discount for an arts scholarship is small, ie 5-10%, and your dd has to pass the academic exam.

Omg she and you are actually most helpful with data , among all the trolls.

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hockeyfun · 15/05/2026 13:18

Nobody goes into the 11plus 13 plus process using an art scholarship as the deciding factor because the sum off the fees is tiny. Years ago my ds was offered an academic scholarship (mixed school outside the M25) that was so small it didn’t even cover the cost of the coach fees.

Ayaboo · 15/05/2026 13:21

hockeyfun · 15/05/2026 13:18

Nobody goes into the 11plus 13 plus process using an art scholarship as the deciding factor because the sum off the fees is tiny. Years ago my ds was offered an academic scholarship (mixed school outside the M25) that was so small it didn’t even cover the cost of the coach fees.

Not for £ .
for glory .

plus :
inside school maybe 1-2 free art lessons or 1 free hairy brush or whatever freebie —-if there is any at all . From the scholarship ?

Seriously :
any pressure to perform/ deliver ?
like for example : 5 projects per year with a deadline ?
Or must get a A in art GCSE ?

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BonjourCrisette · 15/05/2026 14:32

You can't get an A in Art GCSE at any school, because they are graded by numbers.

My daughter had a scholarship for something else creative at 6th form and was expected to help with running clubs for younger students and take part in other opportunies at school. She was not expected to do any exams in that subject at all (some of the other scholars didn't take that subject).

Ayaboo · 15/05/2026 16:31

I just wish there is a website forum specialist for mums whose kids deep into art/architecture direction. Alike ballet co forum , but only just specialist for art topics . For teenagers school/ portfolio/ interview / admission/ competition etc narrow topics ….
Rather than mumsnet too broad for this Niche .

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dodobookends · 15/05/2026 16:51

Ayaboo · 03/05/2026 08:34

Dummies here .
Totally clueless where to start .

richmknd Chelsea Chiswick Surrey kingston area only.

pity it is not gender Seperate alike ballet admission ,
otherwise boys have more % chance in art scholarship .

Full-time ballet schools teach male and female dance students separately because their training regime is different. Also, there is no state provision for elite classical ballet training whatsoever.

The same cannot be said for art.

Ayaboo · 15/05/2026 17:15

chess they teach all the same .
however they only compare boys Vs boys .
not boys v girls .

i feel arts should be the same alike chess . Due to differnt gender brain structure ….

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dodobookends · 15/05/2026 22:17

Ayaboo · 15/05/2026 17:15

chess they teach all the same .
however they only compare boys Vs boys .
not boys v girls .

i feel arts should be the same alike chess . Due to differnt gender brain structure ….

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