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Mumloveswine · 06/11/2024 12:07

My Daughter is year 8, it is a long bus ride to her grammar school so I am looking at options to move her.
The local comprehensive school is full.

My husband isn’t her dad, and doesn’t believe in private schools, so I would pay her fees on my own wage. I could have just about afforded it before the VAT increase but not now.

I read somewhere a while ago that this has happened before and the biological parent’s income is only taken into account, so I could apply for a bursary. Even though our household income is high, it is only my income that would being used.

Her biological dad would contribute £200 a month, as he is on a low wage.

Does anyone have any information about this or heard something similar?
I don’t want to seem like a fool if I rang the private school.

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mitogoshigg · 08/11/2024 19:14

40 mins is normal to secondary

80smonster · 08/11/2024 19:14

Mumloveswine · 06/11/2024 12:07

My Daughter is year 8, it is a long bus ride to her grammar school so I am looking at options to move her.
The local comprehensive school is full.

My husband isn’t her dad, and doesn’t believe in private schools, so I would pay her fees on my own wage. I could have just about afforded it before the VAT increase but not now.

I read somewhere a while ago that this has happened before and the biological parent’s income is only taken into account, so I could apply for a bursary. Even though our household income is high, it is only my income that would being used.

Her biological dad would contribute £200 a month, as he is on a low wage.

Does anyone have any information about this or heard something similar?
I don’t want to seem like a fool if I rang the private school.

If it’s a competitive grammar you’d be mad to pay, if it’s not then maybe worth a try? I’ve noticed different schools have different income levels they accept for bursaries. Good luck OP.

Mumloveswine · 08/11/2024 19:28

xyzandabc · 08/11/2024 18:56

40 mins bus to secondary is not unusual. I have 2 that go on a bus to a grammar, it's a public bus and takes just under an hour. Many many at their school have similar journeys. If she's getting on well there and is generally happy, and the only reason she wants to move is to avoid a 40 mins bus ride, I'd tell her tough. It's a good school, others have similar longer journeys and she just needs to get used to it. Do homework, play a game, listen to music or a podcast on the bus.

I would not be paying private school fees to avoid a child whining about a bus ride.

Edited

I think I was overthinking it and it has been getting me down, but thanks for the true words of advice that I needed on this forum, can’t see the wood for the trees sometimes.

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Mumloveswine · 08/11/2024 19:30

lunar1 · 08/11/2024 18:52

Any bursaries and scholarships at our school are now ring fenced for families struggling to continue paying fees.

Nobody who's not already there will get any discounts.

This is true, I hadn’t thought of the VAT issues that current students would face. Very selfish of me 🤦.

(that sounded sarcastic but isn’t).

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Mumloveswine · 08/11/2024 19:34

I don’t think it’s that competitive the grammar, but depends on the year group. Wasn’t for my daughter at the time.
I think I would be mad to pay £19000 a year because she doesn’t like a bus ride 🫣.
Thanks for the well wishes.

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Mumloveswine · 08/11/2024 19:34

mitogoshigg · 08/11/2024 19:14

40 mins is normal to secondary

Thanks, it’s not much really is it when I think about it. She just needs to stop her moaning, and I need to get a grip 🤣

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DoublePasta · 08/11/2024 19:35

Anotherfrozenpizzafortea · 08/11/2024 16:58

Wow. Your household can afford private fees but you're hoping you can bend the rules to take advantage of a bursary that other families have contributed to, so that your dd doesn't have to sit on a bus?

Your dh is in for a shock of your dd wants to go to uni as ALL household income is included.

Or he might think that there is a difference between topping up a student loan by £5000 for three years and paying private school fees for a child who is already in a good school where she is happy but doesn't want to get the bus.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 08/11/2024 19:35

40 mins - Good grief !

I live in an area where there are 3 grammar schools and i know children travel from a nearby city to get to school !

You have a lazy teenager and when she leaves her current school her place will be given to someone who will appreciate it.

Are you also going to send your other child to private school ? as i guess she didn't get into the grammar hence going to the local comp.

After all you wouldn't treat your children differently, would you just because of a bus journey.

Viviennemary · 08/11/2024 19:36

nearlylovemyusername · 08/11/2024 16:33

Sorry it hit raw nerve, but why do you think someone else should pay for your child's shorter journey to school, especially given high household income, when tens of thousands of parents are forced to move their happily settled (and in many cases ND) kids from private to state because of VAT?

I that existing (or rather remaining) bursary pots will be used to support current students instead.

Edited

I agree. If your partner or your ex won't subsidise fees why do you think other folk should. The bursary thing seems a bit of a con to me. Sorry.

Mumloveswine · 08/11/2024 19:39

DoreenonTill8 · 08/11/2024 19:12

This, rather shit for your other daughter!

Yes on paper doesn’t sound fair, but my other daughter loves the local school. She has joined all the clubs and has her friends over, which is probably what my year 8 daughter has been seeing and is jealous. Maybe it’s not the bus ride but everything that goes with not going to the local school.

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Mumloveswine · 08/11/2024 19:43

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 08/11/2024 19:35

40 mins - Good grief !

I live in an area where there are 3 grammar schools and i know children travel from a nearby city to get to school !

You have a lazy teenager and when she leaves her current school her place will be given to someone who will appreciate it.

Are you also going to send your other child to private school ? as i guess she didn't get into the grammar hence going to the local comp.

After all you wouldn't treat your children differently, would you just because of a bus journey.

Yes 40mins isn’t much compared to some journeys. I think she’s just winding me up and doesn’t want to go to any school at all, she just wants to sit in bed/ play the Computer.
Which is probably not worth wasting £19000 a year private school fees on.
I have come to the realisation that she just needs to get on with it.

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WASZPy · 08/11/2024 19:43

100k to avoid a completely normal bus run to a good school is nuts. You could give each kid a house deposit for that.

Mumloveswine · 08/11/2024 19:44

DoublePasta · 08/11/2024 19:35

Or he might think that there is a difference between topping up a student loan by £5000 for three years and paying private school fees for a child who is already in a good school where she is happy but doesn't want to get the bus.

Yes he is the sensible one 🤣 he could afford to send his kid to private school but wouldn’t on principle.
I got brought up in primary private school then grammar, so that’s probably inbuilt 🤣

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DoublePasta · 08/11/2024 19:47

Yes he is the sensible one 🤣 he could afford to send his kid to private school but wouldn’t on principle.
I got brought up in primary private school then grammar, so that’s probably inbuilt 🤣

I don't think the OP has said if her boyfriend has children never mind what schools they go to.

I don't know what you mean by 'got brought up in primary private'.

Mumloveswine · 08/11/2024 19:47

WASZPy · 08/11/2024 19:43

100k to avoid a completely normal bus run to a good school is nuts. You could give each kid a house deposit for that.

I think my child just knows how to wear me down when I have PMS! I will tell her tough luck to stay at the grammar, rather than me paying £100k because she doesn’t want to go on a bus.

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Mumloveswine · 08/11/2024 19:48

DoublePasta · 08/11/2024 19:47

Yes he is the sensible one 🤣 he could afford to send his kid to private school but wouldn’t on principle.
I got brought up in primary private school then grammar, so that’s probably inbuilt 🤣

I don't think the OP has said if her boyfriend has children never mind what schools they go to.

I don't know what you mean by 'got brought up in primary private'.

Meant primary school=private, secondary=grammar.

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Anonym00se · 08/11/2024 19:49

Mumloveswine · 08/11/2024 18:35

I think she’s just knows my weak spot as I regret putting her into the school, and is complaining about it and I then feel guilty. I need to parent better 🤣it’s a 40min bus ride. Most people in her class have a similar ride, just shorter distance with lots of stops.

40 minutes is nothing. I went to Grammar, and my bus took an hour with a 30 minute walk at the end of it. If she’s happy at the school, leave her there. You’re seriously considering spending hundreds of thousands of pounds just so your dd does have the inconvenience of a fairly short commute?

BananaNirvana · 08/11/2024 19:50

nearlylovemyusername · 08/11/2024 16:33

Sorry it hit raw nerve, but why do you think someone else should pay for your child's shorter journey to school, especially given high household income, when tens of thousands of parents are forced to move their happily settled (and in many cases ND) kids from private to state because of VAT?

I that existing (or rather remaining) bursary pots will be used to support current students instead.

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Tens of thousands? Really?

Blushingm · 08/11/2024 19:51

Why is one in private school and the other not? Seems unfair?

Mumloveswine · 08/11/2024 19:53

Blushingm · 08/11/2024 19:51

Why is one in private school and the other not? Seems unfair?

One is in grammar, other in local school as that was both their wishes at the time. They are completely different kids and both wanted to go where their friends were going.

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DoublePasta · 08/11/2024 20:04

Meant primary school=private, secondary=grammar.

I went to private school for my whole school life, from four to eighteen but that hasn't got anything to do with the OP's daughter not wanting to get the bus and the OP thinking of paying one hundred thousand pounds to facilitate that.

Or her partner not wanting to pay for a child who isn't his to go to a private school so she doesn't have to get the bus.

MitochondriaUnited · 08/11/2024 20:04

nearlylovemyusername · 08/11/2024 16:33

Sorry it hit raw nerve, but why do you think someone else should pay for your child's shorter journey to school, especially given high household income, when tens of thousands of parents are forced to move their happily settled (and in many cases ND) kids from private to state because of VAT?

I that existing (or rather remaining) bursary pots will be used to support current students instead.

Edited

Because one parent having a bursary isn’t going to affects tens of thousands of ND kids that are now forced to go to state school!!

The OP is trying to find the best solution for her child, whose PARENTS meet the low income threshold.
Unlike you’re telling me that it’s now the step parent role to pay for the child? Interesting take you rarely see on MN.

Thesheerrelief · 08/11/2024 20:04

40 mins is very average. My journey to secondary school took 90 mins in the mornings (London, rush hour) and about an hour in the afternoons.

We moved to rural Ireland when I was a teen. My dad drove me to the nearest town ahead of his start time at work (so I got there about 7.50 - he was on a building site for 8 am). I then waited for the bus to the nearest city to go to school - it stopped at four secondary schools and mine was the third! All in all it took me about an hour to get to school.

80smonster · 08/11/2024 20:30

Mumloveswine · 08/11/2024 19:47

I think my child just knows how to wear me down when I have PMS! I will tell her tough luck to stay at the grammar, rather than me paying £100k because she doesn’t want to go on a bus.

An important lesson in resilience possibly 😂

Mumloveswine · 08/11/2024 20:37

80smonster · 08/11/2024 20:30

An important lesson in resilience possibly 😂

Yes, £100k or tough parenting 🤣

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