To think a lot of people who agree with VAT on school fees…

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Actually don’t truly understand that to most sending their kids to these schools, it is a massive, massive struggle already.

There seems to be a mentality that if you can afford 20k a year then you’re already comfortable so sod it, you should find more cash now for vat … but do people in general not understand that some families re mortgage their homes to pay these fees? Yes there’s mega wealthy people but there’s many, many more who are not.

On the one hand we hear a good education is a luxury so VAT must be applied, then on the other we are told a good education is a right for all. So… why are we taking away that good education from those who already have it? Why is the focus not on sorting out the state sector properly? We all know the vat won’t fix the state sector. It may help in a tiny way in ad hoc circumstances but there’s so so so much more that needs to be done to state schools to make them ever match what the private sector offers.

I simply don’t get this mentality that those making sacrifices must make more when it comes to bloody education. I say this as someone who can’t afford the fees but if I could I absolutely would… and I also acknowledge that I am unwilling to go to some lengths that others will to pay it. I respect the choice of others to make such sacrifices and have no desire to make it harder and more inaccessible for the masses to access it. Similarly, I know plenty of people driving fancy cars and spending loads on holidays… they’ve chosen that over school fees. And those who have spend loads getting into a postcode of a decent state school… should they be paying enhanced tax on their house purchase?

Why do most people think those who pay schools fees are doing so with great ease? Is it basically because they don’t personally know people paying this so accept the media narrative that it’s the mega rich only?

Well if you are going to cite your own special qualifications to have a view then you should be able to back it up. A governor of a school should have rudimentary knowledge of grammar surely? Or are state schools not worth that?

Yep.

Might as well add VAT to books as well while you’re at it.

Same for Surrey

They can’t provide an education, that’s the whole point; there isn’t room. Long term, who knows; short term - there’s no space.

Wonderful, let's make sure that only the very richest few in society can afford to give their children anything more than the most basic state education.

i suspect we shall have to agree to disagree. Education has (and remains for most countries) VAT exempt. To tax education is IMO regressive

HAHA even more kids? So you’re saying that those special few deserved the ‘good’ education? And why?

I went to a private school. My parents wouldn’t have been able to afford it with the new cuts.

And guess what? These threads are still pissing me off so much. Read the room.

Huh? It's the exact same situation. ALL people deserve quality healthcare, not just those who can afford it. People absolutely would say "suck it up" when the large majority of us have DISGUSTINGLY ridiculous waiting times, and people die as a result!

I agree with VAT on school fees.

I don't care if you can or can't afford it, in the same way I don't care if you can or can't afford a Porsche. Just send your kid to state school or get on Only Fans.

Said it before, say it again - literally, who cares? These people are not doing anything for society at large. They are buying something for THEIR children, to give them a leg up

There nothing remotely noble in this “sacrifice”. Send your kid to a normal school, like everyone else. Oh but my child is different, my child is academic, they couldn’t possibly thrive amongst all the hoodlums. Equip them to get on with it and stop moaning.

Private schools are bad for society (and I say that as someone who went to a top one for my entire school life, and could afford to send my kids but don’t. And neither have we moved to a special catchment area - they go to ordinary middle of the road schools and are doing just fine)

You reckon? No-one who isn't grammatically literate should be permitted to hold positions of power and influence? Talk about ensuring that power stays with those in the right clubs. Everyone is entitled to a view..

Aren't they?

A couple of holidays a year?

The difference is that VAT is charged on their unnecessary Bentleys. As that is a choice that they are making.

As is private schooling.

End of.

All I know are people that jobs pay 20k a year give or take care workers etc so please stop whining do what she rest of the plebs do and go to state school. It's good enough for the rest of us yes . It's so annoying

Or, let's do both things, let's abolish those things that are the biggest impediment to social mobility, like private education, while boosting the life chances of those most in need. Let's put time and effort into giving every child the chance to be judged on their talents and abilities, not just those whose parents have the deepest pockets.

I don't think that VAT on private schools will automatically lead to VAT on piano lessons, that was your premise. But if that is the only way to do it, then so be it.

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Hertfordshire would a prime example of where a rampant private sector has permitted the state sector provision to be less than it should be. It will be a painful correction but needed. And the local authority has to provide the kids withdrawn from private school with an education. They don't have to pander to mum and daddy's feelings of being hard done by though.

They can’t provide an education, that’s the whole point; there isn’t room. Long term, who knows; short term - there’s no space.*

long-term, ex-private parents will just comfortably buy homes in the catchment areas of the best state schools, and there will be no overall wider improvement.

Are you accusing her of lying about being Chair of Governors because she made a spelling mistake? You are quite offensive. I thought that private schools were quite hot on courtesy and manners.

Great, then we can all grow up to be care workers too

If those positions of power and influence don't require an ability to spell and chose an appropriate word that means what the writer intends it to mean. If you don't need those skills then anyone could do them of course.

But in education? I think an ability to write properly is essential to reflect decent standards. We don't need dumbing down any further.

Only fans! Funniest comments so far!

I would destroy all private schools there are countries that have none. Then everyone has the same schooling and has yo be in the same system that way those parents that are more motivated will push the state schools to be better

It won’t improve the state sector.

House prices in my area are determined by catchment areas, so again only wealthier people can afford to live there or people rent a tiny flat for short periods. Nobody can tell me the state system works and is fair. It’s completely broken.

How disgusting what is wrong with being a care worker omfg you posh twats

"Moderate socialist" who believes that certain human beings deserve to die and that based on your previous comments some human beings have no empathy?

There is nothing moderate about what you believe. That you seem comfortable with people dying if they contradict your ideology is scary to me.