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Primary appeals

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Tanya2022 · 26/04/2022 10:43

Hello I am wandering if anyone has any advice on school appeals, if I stand a chance
this is my situation, prepare your self quite a long one

my child Refused his primary school admission into reception reason given out of catchment area but still 5 min commute
The school my child has been given is closer so distance is not the issue

my hubby suffers with chronic fibromyalgia and depression/anxiety
This condition can be severe and varies from day to day

i have made arrangements with my sister to help with the school pick ups and drop offs when I am caring for his father or been awake all night due to escorting my hubby for medical requirements, if he’s falllen due to poor mobility.

my sister has a child who also attends the refused school so she will pick up my child in a morning and take him to school
also pick him up after school when needed and takes him to hers on occasions for tea until things are calmer and more settled at home
If My child doesn’t attend the school o he will face missing school on days throughout the week and been late due to not been able to get him there due to caring for his dad when his condition is at his worse
my child’s education will be effected
Also having my sister and his anti as a support person helps lesson any emotional and social interruptions that My child would experience due to missing school.
To send My child to a different school would break that support connection as my sister is only available to help due to travelling to the same school.
i am concerned that my sons educational and emotional and social needs will be greatly affected if he does not attend the school
at that school he has a reliable support from my sister to ensure when it is impossible to get him there on time then the she will take him and the same with pick ups if his farther has fallen or is in great distress my sister will collect My son at same time as her own son and take him home or drop him home.
my child is a very clever happy child and has a fantastic routine and loves school, it is not fair for his schooling to be affected due to unexpected farthers deteration of health.. I just wants to maintain structure and a stable happy routine for My son and try to make sure that the health of his farther does not affect him emotionally.. to have a different school would greatly Add to some form of distress for Him as he would have days off which would lead to poor attendance affecting his education and learning he would be late, also affect my sons emotional needs and social interactions that he requires as a developing child, I just want to maintain his happiness, to attend another school would put My son and and myself under great pressure and stress wich would affect My child, hes a happy 4 year old boy and deserves to be given the chance at a good reliable education
This current routine supports my sons emotional needs and will also ensure he attends school everyday on time and meets his educational needs to

i no the appeals is really hit and miss and I may not stand a chance

thanks in advance

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LIZS · 26/04/2022 10:51

If it is Infant Class Size ie intake is full it is unlikely this would win an appeal. Is there any health or social needs category in the admissions criteria, although this relates more to those of the child than parent/carer. Are you on the waiting list for preferred school?

PanelChair · 26/04/2022 11:09

Is this an Infant Class Size (ICS) appeal, ie the school admits in multiples of 15? If so, I very much doubt that you’ll win.

For an ICS appeal, you need to show that there’s been an error which has cost your child their place, or the decision to refuse was so unreasonable (in the legal sense) that it should be reversed.

The panel will be sympathetic to your difficulties in caring for your husband, but I doubt they will agree that they meet the very high threshold to win an ICS appeal. It would be a bad idea to tell the panel that, if your child doesn’t get a place at the preferred school, they’ll miss school. That sounds like blackmail. The panel will not like it. They are likely to take the view that it’s your job as parent to get your child to school and, if the offered school is less than five minutes away, seek help from a childminder or neighbour on days when you can’t take your child yourself.

Is deferring your child’s school start an option? That might give you more time to sort out arrangements for getting your child to and from school.

Sorry not to be more encouraging.

CareBearsCare · 26/04/2022 11:14

Do you have a waiting list position ? Hopefully you'll be very high and there's some movement before September.

JanePrentiss · 26/04/2022 11:24

It's unlikely your circumstances would win an appeal - what class is your sister's dc in? If a higher class what arrangements would you have in place when her dc leave? Agree with other posters, don't say by not being in the same school as your sister's dc your child might miss school - it's not a good enough reason and the tone of "You'll cause this" won't help you.

It might be worth looking at nurseries, childminders etc that do school drop offs and pick ups, and forging links with other parents when your dc starts to build an I formal support network for drop offs and pick ups.

MichaelMumsnet · 26/04/2022 12:21

Apols, there's a duplicate thread so here are the posts copied over from that one....

HalfShrunkMoreToGo · 26/04/2022 10:20
Are you saying that you can't leave your husband for 20 minutes to do drop off and pick up?

If you're only 5 minutes from the school then you'd be there and back in less than half an hour. Are you able to make the case that your husband needs you physically present every minute of the day when he has a flare up?

meditrina · 26/04/2022 10:23 Did your first choice school have an 'exceptional medical or social need' category, and did you apply in that category?

WaterBottle123 · 26/04/2022 12:17
Surely you need to apply for carers for your husband if he can never be left alone? As your son grows he will need taking various places, not just school.

I'm sorry for your troubles but I think you're looking at this through the wrong lens. Unless there is a controlling aspect to your husband illness and he won't LET you leave him?

DahliaMacNamara · 26/04/2022 13:09

Some schools do have a category for wider family social/medical criteria in their admissions ordering, but it sounds as if either that's not the case at the school in question, you didn't gather evidence to apply on this basis, or if you did, there were still children whose applications met higher criteria. The school will understand your difficulties, I'm sure, but unless a mistake has been made they won't be allowed to admit your child.
This doesn't mean you shouldn't try - mistakes do happen. But realistically, your best chance of getting into the school is to be on its waiting list. People move, or change their minds, or simply don't show up in September. Don't give up hope, even if your appeal is unsuccessful.

RedskyThisNight · 26/04/2022 16:03

If the school is only 5 minutes away I'd say there is a pretty high chance that you have a close neighbour whose child also goes there who would be happy to take your child to school on the odd day that you can't make it.

Are the start and end times of the two schools exactly the same? Your sister might even be able to manage to get round both with them being so close.

LilacPoppy · 26/04/2022 16:10

Non of the above will win an appeal. It just won’t be believable that your dh can’t be left alone for school runs. Even if that were the case you would be expected to make other arrangements.

Tanya2022 · 29/04/2022 10:16

Thanks for your input to me it's a massive problem but reading others views and advice I can see how it will be looked upon.
I am most defiantly looking into other areas of support and try just change the train of thought.
It will work out!

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