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Should the Summer Holidays be a break?

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jarralass · 10/07/2010 16:42

Hi,

My son has just finished Reception, and due to start Summer Hols, he is doing ok at school, but during most holidays does not normally pick up a pen to write, he enjoys colouring in and drawing, but wouldn't think about writing a note or a list. In the past I've encouraged him to write a sentance every couple of days just to keep his hand in with writing his letters. The same with reading, he loves books and often picks a book up to look at the pictures, he loves been read to, again in the past I've encouraged him to read a school book every couple of nights to keep his hand in. My question therefore is should a holiday be a break, or do you think I'm doing the right thing??

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simpson · 10/07/2010 18:12

TBH I will be doing what you are doing

My DS has also nearly finished reception but because he is the youngest in the year we will be doing some work.

But I will make it fun iyswim ie a scrap book of what we find in the park for him to stick things in and then write about them.

My DS also loves books and he does not find it a chore doing reading at all so I will encourage that.

Having said that for the last 2wks of the summer hols we are going to the IOW and I don't reckon he will do much then as he will be knackered from charging about etc

mrz · 10/07/2010 18:29

I think five minutes a day (or most days) can prevent children "forgetting" what they were taught. 6 weeks is a long time...
helping to write a shopping list or a post card to school from a holiday, looking for numbers during car journeys, pick a colour and count how many cars you see on your walk, look for shapes and patterns, writing name in the sand at the beach ...it doesn't have to be a chore

pcworld · 10/07/2010 19:23

How about getting involved with the library summer reading scheme? We did this last year, it was fab. I think it is a space theme this year. dd loved it last year, we chose a new book every week, got a chart plus stickers and in September she got an award at school assembly for completing the scheme. Tis a fun way of making sure you keep up with reading over the hols and of course another activity for everyone, too!

ReasonableDoubt · 10/07/2010 19:26

We do summer 'projects' - usually nature-related or holiday-related. DS makes a scrapbook or compiles a little folder of info about a topic. It's fun, not hard work for us to participate in, and means he keeps up a bit of writing, reading, drawing etc, but with absolutely no pressure.

MrsBrollyhook · 10/07/2010 20:50

Really like your scrapbook idea ReasonableDoubt. Great way to keep doing a little "school work" and as you say with no pressure!

jobhuntersrus · 10/07/2010 21:06

Learning doesn't necessarily mean picking up a pencil if the dc don't want to. Giving them lots of interesting places to go and things to see will be hugely valuable. We will be focusing on doing all the things we don't get time to do much of during term time. Cooking and baking. Going to get ds2 riding his bike without stabilisers. Nature walks, maybe fishing. Ds1 and 2 have told me they want to make their own movie with the camcorder. They have already started planning the story and choosing costumes from the dressing up box! They are 7 and 10. I'd try and keep up a bit of reading now and then but keep it relaxed.

piscesmoon · 11/07/2010 07:02

I would do as others say and make it fun. Don't make it seem like a chore of sitting down and writing for the sake of it.
If your library don't run a summer reading scheme you could do your own. I used to collect a lot of books that they could read, so they had a choice and they had a sticker chart and a small present when they had read so many (they needed encouragement).
Card games, board games etc are really good.
The scrap book is nice to look back on.

SoupDragon · 11/07/2010 07:12

I've never done anything specific over the holidays and they DSs have never forgotten how to do something over the 6 weeks. In KS2 they get one holiday project to do from school and, TBH, I object to that (but they do it!). That and the library Book Trail is more than sufficient.

I'm knackered from the school year of ferrying about and nagging to do homework and so are they.

piscesmoon · 11/07/2010 07:19

Give him chance to get thoroughly bored and have lots of pens, scissors, boxes, notebooks etc around and he will be driven to being inventive.

SoupDragon · 11/07/2010 08:10

What did you do over the summer holiday as a child?

MmeRedWhiteandBlueberry · 11/07/2010 08:18

I don't think I ever picked up a pen during the summer holidays as my memories of returning to school meant that we would all have aching arms for a few days as we exercise our wasted writing muscles!

I spent the summers riding my bike, playing at the beach, building dens, etc.

jarralass · 11/07/2010 09:33

Thanks for all your replies.

We are off to Edinburgh Zoo next week, going up on the train, so time on the train back to write down the animals we saw perhaps.

DC is really into bridges at the moment, in fact obsessed with the Golden Gate Bridge!!! so will look for some books on this.

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gingernutlover · 11/07/2010 09:51

i agree with everyone who has suggested a scrap book.

Every time you go out for the day or do somthing nice then fill in a page, stick in photos/leaflets/tickets or draw a picture and maybe a little sentence or list fo what they saw.

A lot of schools ask children to do this and then ask the children to bring them, ours run a competition for the best holiday diary.

huffythethreadslayer · 11/07/2010 09:57

We have scrap books from various trips dd took from reception onwards. It gave her something to take into school when she went back after the holidays and we look at them every now and again to remind ourselves of what she liked/could do/ has done when she was younger.

Now she's 9 and slightly less eager to hand things in at school. She does, however, voluntarily write daily. She has journals, draws maps and pictures, writes poems, writes notes to her friends....writing is just part of who she is.

We started with a blackboard next to the kitchen that we wrote menus on every morning. She must have been one of the few kids that could spell sausage before she joined school

huffythethreadslayer · 11/07/2010 09:58

I also meant to say that writing shouldn't be seen as work to some degree. It's fun...and a natural progression from story-telling in the car or at bedtime. So why would anyone want a break from that???

TitsalinaBumSquash · 11/07/2010 10:02

If you have a Lidl near you they are doing fantastic A3 scrap bboks, with lovely bright pictures on the front for £1, i have got 2 for my DS's to use as scrp books, they have 40 plain pages in them just dying to be filled with stuff!

edam · 11/07/2010 10:02

ooh yes, the Library summer scheme is fab. At ours they hold an awards ceremony at the end and all the kids get called up for a certificate which they love.

Agree with everyone else that I wouldn't bother with formal 'learning', just give them a chance to do stuff that interests them. And they will still be learning, just in a more interesting, creative way.

ds's school does the Big Writing scheme which has really turned him off even though he's always been good at writing. At home he loves writing lists (who he's going to invite to his party, that kind of thing), and letters, so I'll be letting him do the kind of thing he enjoys. Actually that reminds me, he could do a thank you note to his former nanny who left him a kind message after babysitting last night. He was so excited to find it by his bed: 'That's the best letter I've EVER had, Mummy!' So I can get him to do a message back.

MathsMadMummy · 11/07/2010 10:15

edam what's the Big Writing scheme? (and why did it turn DS off writing?

lots of fun ideas here, I agree about keeping it fun. I've always found schooly stuff fun anyway, so even now I enjoy doing assignments! my parents gave me that attitude and it's a great one to have IMO.

one holiday when my DH's girls stayed with us, we made a board game from scratch about space (as they were doing it in school), so there was fact-finding, painting the board, writing instructions etc.

jarralass if you want more inspiration you could post on the Home Ed board - loads of people on there do autonomous or child-led learning all year round, so there's bound to be some fun ideas

mrz · 11/07/2010 11:31

Big Writing isn't a scheme it is an approach to writing used by many schools (mine included) that is intended to make the process of writing special so Big as important not as in size. Really it's just everyday common sense teaching methods that build up to a special extended writing session when the classroom is changed with soft music scented candles and dimmed lights . The children where I teach love it and we have found it to be very successful in motivating children as writers and readers.

"Big Writing' is a strategy for raising standards in writing developed by Ros Wilson, that has been implemented in thousands of primary schools throughout the United Kingdom and around the world. The method relates to the English language only.

Ros Wilson developed her Criterion Scale to standardise the assessment of over twenty thousand pieces of children's writing between October 1999 and October 2002. As an associated project setting short-term targets for children, it became evident that there were 'Four Generic Targets' for writing, Vocabulary, Connectives, Openers and Punctuation or V.C.O.P.. This was true regardless of the age or level of writing skill of all pupils writing within Level 2 and above. Further work and assessment led to the realisation that the Four Generic Targets that 'grow' as the pupil's writing skill grows.

Wilson was able to refine her method during a period working in Qatar, whilst helping to establish an English speaking school near the city of Doha. All of the staff were trained to employ her method for teaching writing across the school and the results were remarkable. Upon her return to the U.K., she published her first book with Kirklees LEA and subsequent titles documenting the method with Andrell Education Ltd.

'Big Writing' is the development of the 'writing voice' through fast, fun, lively and predominantly oral activities. Pupils talk the 'writing voice', which becomes known as 'Posh Talk' in a dedicated 'Big Writing' session & at other points in a week. Schools introducing 'Big Writing' are advised to make it special, designating a session of one and a half hours per week split across morning break, with daily 'stocking fillers' (5 minutes at the end of other lessons).

'Big Writing' is based on the premises:Creating a positive ethos for writing is crucial.If a child can't say it, they can't write it!. 'Big Writing' and its associated strategies stress the importance of talk and that 'boys love to talk and what is good for the boys is good for the girls!'.Sharing the secret garden of assessment with pupils, and explaining exactly targeted assessment and measuring of progress, empowers and excites them.Most pupils can succeed as writers far beyond levels usually expected for their age when taught the skills of writing scientifically. If pupils do not use their writing skills regularly they will lose them.

As Ros Wilson said:

Ask yourself;
"Do all the children in your class feel excited and empowered about writing?"
Remember;
You make the difference! Keep it lively, engaging and exciting for those pupils in your classes!

Creating a positive environment for writing will help to embed learning, to raise the status of writing as an activity in the classroom and to motivate pupils. Changing the environment by:

  • Introducing soft, classical music
  • Dimming or changing the lighting, possibly introducing a lava lamp or candles
  • Creating displays celebrating successes and targets
  • Making water freely available for writing sessions
  • Ensuring that examples of work, guidelines, any written work is of good quality and clear. The care that you take and example set give a sub-conscious message about the importance of writing.

Through 'Big Writing' pupils are encouraged to be ambitious, to up-level their work and pay attention to their use of V.C.O.P., which with The Punctuation Pyramid, becomes a toolkit for writing at a higher level. Stealing and borrowing are encouraged when pupils see elements of V.C.O.P. in peers' work that they like. The concept is simple, that children do not need to understand the educationalist terminology to use the skills in their work. "

edam · 11/07/2010 11:58

Interesting but sadly that's not the way ds's school (which is generally jolly good) does it. He's in Year 2. Gets homework every week which is about planning his writing. They do get encouraged/reminded to use VCOP but it's not creative, seems to be a terribly formulaic way to write. Constraining them rather than helping creativity.

It's often not stories but a list of instructions for making something, or a list of what should be in your lunchbox for a healthy meal.

Even when it is a story, they are instructed what to write about (for e.g. a beach holiday) and then to do one chunk on a particular aspect, then another chunk about X and another chunk about Y. Takes all the fun and spontaneity out of it. Why can't they do at least SOME writing where they get to choose the subject?

Ds is a reasonably bright child, who used to love writing, and is in the top set for literacy (so could cope with something more demanding) but just hates Big Writing to the point where he refused to go into school one day. The lady in the office had to fetch a TA to encourage him in - she said they could sit quietly and read a book to ease him into it. Such a shame.

And Big Writing runs throughout the ruddy school so he'll be frustrated by it all the way through to the end of Year 6.

This is a child who was fascinated by punctuation and wanted to know what all the marks were called when he was in reception and I was reading bedtime stories. Not any more. And who reads very well with appropriate emphasis and tones of voice for all the characters. And was delighted when they did similes and metaphors.

I really loved writing when I was at primary school (and secondary) and grew up to become a writer (well, a hack but you can get quite creative with features). So I really hate ds being turned off. So sad.

MathsMadMummy · 11/07/2010 12:01

Thanks mrz, informative as always

I like the sound of the 'stocking fillers' - do they incorporate what you've been doing in that lesson?

edam · 11/07/2010 12:01

My point is, it's done the opposite of creating a positive ethos for ds. It's made him bored and frustrated and reluctant to write.

Might work for kids who weren't keen on writing in the first place, but has been disastrous for ds who did love writing.

MathsMadMummy · 11/07/2010 12:04

thanks for replying edam - do you think it's the Big Writing itself that your DS doesn't like, or the school aren't applying it properly? (sorry just curious)

taffetacatski · 11/07/2010 12:05

agree totally with jobhunters - the summer holdays IMO are for doing all that stuff you don't have the time to do during term time, riding a bike, grubbing in the ground for worms all day, taking a football, friends and a picnic to the park for hours and hours going to a PYO etc.

would still obviously read to them but in terms of getting them to read to me, I might see if they can read a bit of the book I am reading every few days or so in order that they don't forget how to do it, but certainly take my foot off the pedal a little - its the summer holidays, the time to help them create special memories.

SprMum · 11/07/2010 12:34

Edam - i have a Year 4 DS who has also been completely put off Literacy by Big Write in his school being too prescriptive. The subject matter is often of very little interest (espec to boys) and children are told how many pages they are expected to complete what things they are expected to include and even how many 'Wow' words they should use. Creativity? No space for it in my opinion. Since Big Write was introduced at his school my DS has actually dropped out of the top ability group in literacy.
Along with this the schools insistence that reading is 'homework' coupled with being made to read atrociously boring books in 'Guided Reading', out loud in front of his friends (he gets embarrassed) has also made reading - previously one of his favourite pastimes, into this demonic task that he feels 'forced' to do. I'm sure Roald Dahl and J.K.Rowling were never forced to stem their creativity in any way. Targets seem to be more important these days than children thinking in a creative way.

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