year 4

[Naze]

Can someone help me please:
My son is year 4 and he recived 4c in Maths and 4c in English. I have been cheking diffrent sites appareantley his level is OK, I was expecting a higher level, such 4a, do you think he is behind

Ok ? That is above average.

Thanks, diffrent sites also reports that this above average, but some of his friends recived 4a. I worked with him everynight. I also feel that theachers expectations from children are low. What can you suggest?

Why were you expecting a higher level?

In what way did you work with him every night ? That could be counter productive.

Everyone needs space to develop. Lots of good books to read from the library and free time is probably more valuable.

I actually think teachers expect a lot from children these days.

Yes I was expecting a higher level, we revise maths almost daily(20 minutes) and English (reading 20 minutes). Altough we speak Turkish at home some of the times, we mostly speak English. We have a lot of revision books and follow what he has been thought at the sshool on the day we revise. He is a clever child but I feel that he is always thinking about games. Some children in his class recived 4a on both. I feel upset that he has not reached to that level.

Maybe he needs a break. He has been working all day at school after all.

Does he read to himself as well ?

Why does it matter? I'm not being horrible - just wondering.

Not many children reach level 4A in year 4.

Yup she is quite right.

Interesting....I have dcs in Years 4 and 5 and have never been told their levels. I didn't think it was really relevant until Year 6, when they actually sit the tests.

I have never been told either. Schools differ I suppose.

Our school tells us - it's all part of APP.

Errr the average child should be 4b by the end of year 6 - you're worried he is one level (6 months) lower than a child two years older? If you genuinely are worried you really need to take a chill pill...

What is APP seeker ?

You really have absolutely nothing to worry about. Level 4 is what is expected of children at the end of year 6. Your son is two years ahead! Some others are doing slightly better. It happens.

"I feel that he is always thinking about games" - well yes. He's 9! I'd be worried if he wasn't

Thanks for all the comments, I feel much better since joining the site, it is comforting to know that people reply. None the less I still feel that our expections from children should higher.

3b is about average for a Y4 child. If your child is a 4c then he is doing very well and you have nothing to worry about.

I would also say that working at a level 4c in Y4 is having high expectations.

I think your expectations of him are too high, he's a child, he should be playing with worms and climbing trees. He's academically advanced already, I wouldn't push him because he won't thankyou for it.

What would you like him to have got?

I would have liked him to get 4a, one person in the class achieved.

How on earth do you know that one person in the class achieved it?

It doesn't matter what someone else did (or probably didn't) get. If you push your child too far then he'll never want to learn, he'll rebel against education and you.

Perhaps by working with him intensively, you are limiting his ability to think more laterally about maths problems.
That tends to be one of the key elements that separates the lower and higher levels.
Like being good at grammar and spelling but being an unimaginative writer.

Naze - Why are you so obsessed with what other children achieved? Maybe other children in the class are (shock, horror) brighter than he is! So what? Enjoy and celebrate your own child's abilities without worrying about others.

A level 4 is the expected level at end of Year 6 (ie on leaving primary).

My DS1 (11yo) may have scraped a level 4 in reading (and tbh I would be delighted if he did!) so I think yr DS is doing fine OP.

Yes I agree with those who say don't worry about what others achieve in the class. Who knows, who cares? Is your child making progress? Yes? Good enough for me.