On what stage of the Early Years Foundation Stage Profile is the average child when entering reception?

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Just interested, thank you.

6 for each area afaik

So if a child was reaching fours would that be a cause for concern?

I though 6 was the ave score at the END of reception, not the start?

6 is average at the end. 3 at the start.

Depends on the area, our children are 1/2's when they enter Reception

I've had children arrive with 9s from private nurseries discovered they are really 1s or 2s...

That must take a bit of explaining to the parents - poor you mrz.

can anyone direct me to a good website which states what each stage consists of?

www.qcda.gov.uk/resources/assets/poster_v8_aw.pdf

Hope this is what you are looking for?

excellent thank you. I have only ever seen at nursery the booklets that group skills into age ranges and the teachers mark accordingly and the results of that go reception class I wasn't aware they used this also.

mrz - are teachers required to give you this information at the end of year parents evening? My DCs teacher didnt. All she wrote in DDs report was "lovecheeses DD has met/achieved (cant remember the exact wording) all of the EYFS targets and is working beyond them in most cases". What should I assume from this? what score would she most likely have achieved? Just curious.

lovecheese the statutory requirements are -

Within the final term of the EYFS providers must provide the parent of a child in relation to whom the EYFS Profile has been completed with:

• a written summary reporting the child's progress against the early learning goals and the assessment scales;
• where the parent requests it, a copy of the EYFS Profile;
• details of the arrangements under which the EYFS Profile and its results may be discussed between a practitioner and the parent, giving a reasonable opportunity for the parent to discuss the EYFS Profile and its results with that practitioner.

I would expect a child working beyond ELGs? to have scores of 8 and 9 in all 13 areas

Thanks mrz, fee in the post. So I could request a copy if I wanted one. Sorry OP for hijacking, back to you...

Yes the school must share the profile with parents if requested.

Sorry OP, I mis read your post. 6 is average for the end of reception of course

addieuk you wouldn't have seen the grid beautifulgirls linked to in nursery as it is intended for the end of reception not for younger children.

Nursery schools and pre schools should be using the month bands in development matters. The scale points are purely for Reception. As a reception teacher I initially assess using the monthly descriptions, some children are within scale point 1- 3 when beginning reception. The national average says approximately 60 odd percent (can't remember exact figure from the top of my head) will be scale point 6 or above in CLL and Personal and Social. Those are the key areas that LA's and Ofsted concentrate on.

1-4 is w0rking towards the goals still. 6 is the average. 9 means reception goals met and working at a year 1 level.

I'm afraid that isn't quite right 1-3 are development matters 4-8 are early learning goals and 9 indicates a child working consistently beyond ELGs.(not quite the same as working at Y1 levels)

I've not seen these either, but DS1 would be 3's and 4's in most things and 7's and 8's in the numeracy and physical section.

Forgot to mention he starts reception in sept and is May birthday. Goes to a playing nursery rather than an academic one

Karoleann if he's at 7 & 8s in numeracy he's exceptionally able for a nursery child.

Mrz - What happens if they can't do it all in the right order? My dd (5.3) is in reception. Looking at the first column in Personal, Social and Emotional Development I would say she achieves all of them apart from 7 as she is not confident at speaking out loud in a group. Does this mean she can only be a 6 or can she be a "9 apart from 7"?

Also in Problem solving, reasoning and numeracy dd2 (2.9) can "count reliably up to 10 objects" (6) but doesn't yet recognise all the numbers 1-9 (5). I'm just interested in how this works and haven't seen it detailed so precisely before.

Runoutofideas the new guidance says children must achieve 1-3 before they can progress onto the ELGs (4-8 except under special curcumstances) which can be achieved in any order (with one exception) point 9 can't be awarded unless all the other points have been achieved first.

So in problem solving your daughter could be awarded point 6 without having achieved point 5 but in personal social and emotional couldn't be awarded point 9 because she hasn't achieved point 7 but could be awarded point 8.

Thanks for clearing that up!