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High Frequency Words

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siblingrivalryisrelative · 06/05/2010 20:17

Are they just supposed to be able to read them or should they be able to write them too? Thanks!

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gleegeekgleek · 06/05/2010 20:22

What year is your dc in?
My understanding in most schools is that it's mainly just reading them in reception and then spelling from year one but it seems to vary.

On a related matter (sorry for hijack) does anyone have any lists of tricky or HFW after the Letters and Sounds first 100 HFW?
I appreciate HFW and tricky words are different but either would be ok.

siblingrivalryisrelative · 06/05/2010 20:34

He's in reception and reading way beyond his peers but his spelling is still a bit pants in comparison!

In answer to your hijack I'm guessing it's these

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mrz · 06/05/2010 20:50

siblingrivalryisrelative do you realise Sparklebox is currently serving a prison sentence (his second) convicted of child pornography offences and every time you click on his website you generate income so he can fund his hobby when released?

Please don't use the link on siblingrivalryisrelative post!

gleegeekgleek · 06/05/2010 20:51

Thanks.
There is a similar lag with ds (also reception and also seemingly ahead of his class with reading) - his spelling hasn't kept up at all and they don't focus on it in his class (many reception teachers don't and are fine with them using their phonic knowledge to work out spellings even if they're not correct).

So I'll be interested in responses to your OP too.

mrz · 06/05/2010 20:52

The sex scandal that took the shine off Sparklebox
BBC News - Paedophile ran teaching website

mrz · 06/05/2010 20:55

If the school is using Letters & Sounds there is a set of words linked to each phase. Using this programme the child is expected to be able to read the words from each phase and spell the words from the previous phase.

mrz · 06/05/2010 20:58

In reception a child should read the words from phases 2-4 and spell the words from phases 2 & 3
In Y1 read the words from 2-5 spell 2-4
In Y2 read the words in 2-6 spell 2-5
I'm assuming your school uses Letters & Sounds

gleegeekgleek · 06/05/2010 20:58

Do you have an alternative list MRZ?

Ds really enjoyed learning his first sets of tricky words but when he finished them about six months ago, his teacher basically said that was it and didn't give him any more - as if there aren't any others in the English language

mrz · 06/05/2010 21:07

www.letters-and-sounds.com/
tricky words by phase

mrz · 06/05/2010 21:09

gleegeekgleek I don't give children word lists either if children are taught phonics effectively (with all the rules that apply to the tricky words) they shouldn't need to learn more than a handful

gleegeekgleek · 06/05/2010 21:24

I think the thing with ds is they aren't doing letters and sounds (JP instead) and they stage they are at as a class is quite a lot behind where he is at. So he either needs to learn them as tricky words now until they cover the rules or wait until they teach them which doesn't really work as the books he is on will presumably have these words.

Also although he does learn phonics and cope with it, whole word recognition does suit his way of learning.

siblingrivalryisrelative · 06/05/2010 21:26

Sorry. Excuse my ignorance. When I clicked on Sparklebox something in the back of my mind triggered a memory in the news but I didn't think long enough to remember what it was!

I was told at parents evening that DS is 'on phase 5'. So does that mean he should be able to spell the phase 4 words or that he's learning to spell the phase 5 words? He can read well beyond that but, obviously with his writing lagging behind they can't put him any further on until that catches up.

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mrz · 06/05/2010 21:27

Personally I think JP is better than Letters & Sounds but it needs "pace"

gleegeekgleek · 06/05/2010 21:42

Well there isn't much of that in ds' class and he could do with it. I think they are just finishing sounds like ou and er.

Year one is going to be a bit of shock for them as they have had such a lovely gentle time in reception and I don't think year 1 is as play based at his school, albeit in some schools it has turned this way too.

mrz · 07/05/2010 16:30

gleegeekgleek if that is the case there certainly isn't any pace. I left reception at Christmas and we had completed JP 42 phonemes before the holidays!

gleegeekgleek · 07/05/2010 18:03

I know mrz. I think from previous discussions your pace with reception was unusually fast (I mean that in a good way).

Out of curiosity what would you be doing now with them if you were still in reception?

It's a shame as ds would really like more pace as he's a smart little chap.

mrz · 07/05/2010 18:31

I would be covering alternative ways to write the phonemes - ai - ay - a_e - eigh - ey
oa - o_e - oe - ow etc in phonics sessions and applying what they know in reading and writing words. I do teach the first "tricky" words as whole words but identify the part that is tricky

So in the word was I would teach that sometimes "a" represents the sound /o/ and give other examples what want

maverick · 08/05/2010 09:13

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