I'm quite shocked by this. Is it even allowed?

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After being dragged into DS' reception class this afternoon by DS to look at some of his work on the wall I noticed some trains on the wall with 10 stations on a track. There were 6 trains, all with different children's names on them.

When I asked DS why he didn't have one he replied with 'oh those are for the naughty children, when they get to station number 10 they get a reward'

Is it normal for children to know which are classed as the 'naughty' ones in the class? I agree that it is probably good for the 'naughty' children to have a visual aid and something to work towards but to put it so openly in front of the other children and parents really shocked me!

Our school has a red, amber, green system. They all start the week with their name stuck on green and if they are naughty they gradually get moved down but can work their way back up.

They have 30 mins golden time on Friday afternoon if they are on Green, 15 if on amber and none if on red... I think .

It is mostly the same kids always on red, they do seem to revel in it!

Believe me, EVERYONE knows who the naughty children are. It doesn't matter whether there's anything to look at or not!

One of ds's old teachers used to write the names on the board of the one's who had been silly in class, this is no different. The children are well aware who gets into trouble in class so a train isn't going to make much of a difference.

It doesn't matter how we try to hide it, sugar coat it, or however it happens, all children know who is naughty, who is clever, and who is not. I name my groups after shapes, fruit, countries, whatever. They all know which is 'top' and 'bottom'!
Not sure about putting the trains on the wall though!

In DD's class they have a traffic light system where children who have been trouble get put on amber and then red. Tbh, I'm not sure I see the problem with identifying unacceptable behaviour, shouldn't parents and teachers be working towards eliminating it together? Children are well aware of who has been 'naughty' anyway as classrooms are very open environments and dd gives me a report on who is being naughty at any one time!

of course its allowed!!

its for the kids benefit too.

And it's probably the children who call the others 'naughty' and not the teachers.

Agree with Timothy, I think everyone knows who are the naughty ones!

Just be glad your ds isnt up there, mine always were...

Most schools have some kind of behavior system, in ds' class they had clouds in reception, something to do with aeroplanes this year, and somewhere in the mix there was walking the plank and man overboard.

Whatever the system, the outcome is the same.

I should imagine the teacher put it in different terms e.g these are the children I want to work extra hard on listening and doing their own work without disturbing others, each time you do that I will... etc etc. Your DS and the other children have correctly surmised that these are the "naughty" children! It could easily be described as an incentive board or reward diagram I would think.

Fair enough. I'm obviously new to all of this! And of course I was relieved DS wasn't on it

I was just surprised that they'd been singled out so obviously. I have seen the cloud system before but thought ALL children were on that rather than just a few - although I do realise it would probably be the same ones on the sad cloud instead of the sun (or whatever it is!)

they certainly all know who's "naughty" - for instance, there are two boys in dd's class, for argument's sake let's call them Will - all the children openly refer to them as "good Will" and "naughty Will"

Everyone knows who the naughty children are, and it's probablyh the kids who label them as 'naughty' even if the treacher doesn't say anything.

my was often 'naughty' he certainly weren't up on any board though! i would question this.

basildonbond- we have that too. But ours are called good and "darkside"

what happens to the not naughty kids do they get a reward??

not in dd's class, 2shoes, it's something she gets quite cross about - "I'm always good, Mummy, and I never get a certificate" ... I've tried telling her that virtue is its own reward, but I don't think that washes with a 7 year old

2shoes they do in my class! I use team points, and everyone gets one every day unless "something" has happened. They also get them for good answers, hard work, trying, being kind etc. There is a reward for the team with the most points each week.

When I was 7, our class teacher divided the class up into tables according to when our birthdays fell - the tables were called Apples, Birds, Cats and Dogs. Then she gradually changed it so the Apples were the goody-two-shoes down to the Dogs, who were headed straight to Borstal. Then she obviously decided that the names weren't quite subtle enough and she regrouped us into three: the "Hard Workers", the "Part Time Workers", and the "Timewasters and Layabouts".

The kids know who's naughty. DS2 (in reception) said 'I don't play with X very often because he's always in time-out'. He also said that 'X is the naughtiest boy in the class and Y is the silliest'.

I agree OP that a system which involved all of the children would be much fairer. What would you have to do to redeem yourself and get your train removed for instance? It would be so demoralsing to be singled out like that. (Although 1/3 of the class being "naughty" does seem a lot!)

DD's school had clothes pegs with each child's name on. They were either on the Fluffy Cloud (good) the Rain Cloud (naughty). Can't remember how it worked, but it does seem to be standard practice for everyone to be able to see who's been naughty and who's been good.

basildonbond that is a shame, almost like a child has to be naughty to be noticed.
ds was neither one or the other, so never got noticed, drove me up the wall