Reading level - are Ginn and OR the same?

[LynetteScavo]

I'm confused.

DS was on Oxford Reading Tree level 4, but has suddenly jumped to Ginn level 8.

How does this work then?

It doesn't correlate at all! It's so far out I think there may have been a mix up. It's a while since I matched our Ginn books to ORT stages, and we tend not to use Ginn any more, but (from memory, laptop at school)
Ginn Level 4 roughly equal to ORT Stage 6
Ginn Level 5 roughly equal to ORT Stage 7/8
Ginn Level 6 roughly equal to ORT Stage 9

So Ginn Level 8 is beyond ORT Stage 11!

Ah, that would make sence...then he's really only gone up one level.

There are lots more words in the Ginn book, though.

No - in effect, he has jumped from ORT Stage 4 to the equivalent of beyond ORT Stage 11 - about 7 levels!

That does sound a big leap.

Has anyone got a link to what stage means what? i.e. at this level they will/should be able to read cat hat fat sat etc??

Hmmm....that would be nigh on impossible to create, ttm, because each scheme is different - some rely on learning whole words in a certain order, some rely on a particular order of sounds.

NC Level 2b is about ORT Stage 9 - around the Stage when children should be able to start transferring their reading skills to reading short 'real' books fluently....

The numbers don't match up, but IME the teachers know which levels do, & they use the different reading schemes to widen a child's vocabulary at the right level rather than pushing them on.

Has anyone heard of a child jumping up reading levels so quickly before? I thought they had to plod through each level.

I did post on here over Christmas that DS had suddenly learned to read after struggling for the last two years (he's in Y2), but that does sound a bit of a dramatic jump. He has just moved up work groups, he's now in the middle group instead of the bottom,(there are 3 groups) so maybe he is just on the same level as everyone else in that group.

It depends on the schools system ie if they do have to plod through all books at all levels (yawn) or if the school takes a more relaxed approach eg. my DD ended reception on blue star level, and read so much over the summer that her teacher said she could miss green and orange books and move straight to turquoise; more recently she only read a few purples before jumping to gold/gold star level and I applaud her school for having this flexibility.

My children often jumped multi levels after spending months on one level. This is partly because children learn to read in jumps rather than gradually. I think that sometimes teachers can be surprised by how quickly an individual child has progressed, and so bump them up several levels when they assess their reading.

There are two Ginn reading schemes. Ginn all aboard levels are similar to ORT, but Ginn 360 levels are as Feenie stated. Our school used Ginn all aboard (Rosie and Sam books).

I see.

The books are Ginn All Aboard, and i've jsut noticed they mnoved him up to level 5 before Christmas....so it's not that big a jump.

The book is "The Hot Pepper Queen and the Mango Babies" It's a bit of a bizare stroy, but very refreshing after Biff and Chip

Can he read it? If so then maybe they changed him as the ORT books too easy?

My little girl in reception recently changed from Ginn to ORT - she did the whole of Ginn level 3 and then went on to ORT level 5.

Hope that helps.

According to this:

atschool.eduweb.co.uk/tcsc/A&I/RBCat2ReadingSchemes.htm#a

All Aboard Level 8 is aimed at reading age 7.00-7.11 and ORT Level 5 is aimed at 6.6 to 6.11.

So it's quite a logical step up, I would think.