Nosy question. What ort stage is your Y1 child on?

[Rainbowinthesky]

THat's it really. Also do they bring the books home?

DS1 is YR1 and ORT 13/14, but they stopped giving him the ORT books and he is getting chapter books.

However, he is at the very top of his class. Most other boys are ORT 6-9.

Riven, what's your problem ? I just flicked this up because I was about to post a similar question.

Yes, they are all different, so it's a bit worrying if they are all given the same book.

My dd is struggling (bored?) with the ORT books, so we've decided to get her practising with Peter & Jane books. She's whizzing along with them. Whereas previously she was struggling for 5 mins on 'got' (yes I timed her).

She says the ORT are boring..I'll be interested in what her teachers says about that.

Interesting sofa queen - spoke to DD's headteacher this week - DD was reading stage 4 with 100% accuracy and was total bored with them, now on stage 6 still knows every word and head told me higher levels not suitable content for y1 kids. not completely sure but teacher tells me most kids in stage 3 and DD tells me only another couple of kids on stage 6.

if ytou dontliek it then read other books at home
no prob is it
ds3 learned to read by reading " refund and exchanges" in marks

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Took DS2 (reception) to use a public toilet today and heard a little voice saying "turn clockwise for new roll?.." from the cubicle. Might be hard to make children read but impossible to make them stop!

How would I know what ORT level he's on?

ds2 on last book of level 9 plus free reading. He's the top of his class though and works with yr2 - and they don't hammer the reading scheme (thankfully) Basically he can read anything/everything and he's usually found reading the cereal packets....

ds1 on the other hand, severely dyslexic, is on level 6 and is in yr4. Just to prove that they are all different and I don't think comparing is often a useful exercise. Not criticising rainbow for asking, but hope you see they are all good at different things and you can't make them move through a reading scheme [and a reading scheme isn't necessarily a good thing for all children to do, imho]

If he has awful reading books about children called Biff, Chip, Flipper or something like that.

If he has awful reading books about children called Biff, Chip, Kipper or something like that. Funny you never see those in the baby name threads.

Yes, have those - but the levels are known by colours rather than numbers. WOuld it be on the book?

No idea. She does all right I think. Won't read books from school mind...

Nobody has any concerns - her, me and DH or the teacher. So I suppose we are just letting her get on with it.

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MumNWLondon, the content of the later stages ORT is certainly not inappropriate for 5-6 year olds. If they think it might be, why not switch you DD to the treetop all-stars, which is the ORT track for highly able early readers (reading level equivalent to ORT 9-12, but content suitable for the younger age range).

DS's teacher switched him to books because he was hitting the threshold where the content was becoming just slightly more suitable to an older child.

Thanks Sofa Queen - That's interesting - I suspect the school don't have them - at a recent PTA meeting the school asked the PTA for money for more reading books, saying they had lots of gaps.

Most of the ORT books that have come home have been very old. I will ask the teacher.

They've put her on ORT 6 (she knows every word in the books - don't think anyone else in the class is that much further ahead though) and can have as many book a week as she wants, so I think we'll have to quickly work through the rest of the biff and chip books (yes very dull but shouldn't take that long as less books in each stage at the higher levels) over the next couple of months before bringing this up again.

MumNWLondon why does she have to read every book in every level?

I'd be worried about my DS getting bored if this was his school's policy.

Why make them stay on the same level if they are more than capable?

My school had this policy (a long time ago) and it really held me back as I was so bored I just switched off.

This seems to be the heads policy - she claims important for spelling(!) as noted on different thread was driving me mad as she was on ORT 4 yet reading chapter books at home! Class teacher said she was unable to help (either to get more books at a time or to skip books) had to speak to head.

Spoke to head and she has put her on ORT 6 but wants her to read 36 books from a scheme called "bangers and mash" - which is more boring than ORT! These apparently cover all the phonic blends.

I agree the quantity of too easy books is a bit of a turn-off ... DD still thinks ORT 6 too easy - she has known every single word in the 4 books we have had so far. However DD will not read with any expression and they want this to improve before they move her up. She is capable just can't be bothered.

Its not the reading they're concerned with its the understanding

dd can read perfectly but has no clue what shes reading

Got uber pushy mum into the school to hear her little darling read difficult book perfectly (smug grin from mum) then me asking him what the story was... cue blank looks from bewildered boy and manic encouragement/neigh pleading from uber mum

Cue me putting Herbert back to easier books for comprehension.

Arf Arf

Not doing ORT but Rigby Rockets at DS' school, think he's on about ORT level 3 or 4.

Green level - is that ORT 4? Anyway all schools, even teachers within schools, seem to take a different approach to reading schemes. Some pushing them though at a frightening lightening rate, others make them trudge through every book in the level...so a thread like this won't really tell you how well your child is reading - you'll need to speak to the teacher for that info.

DC brings 6 books home a week but also reads a selection of books from the library.

I agree with pedaltothemetal, approaches so different between schools that little point in comparing.

As a parent its more important to me that my DD is on the right level for her that where the other kids are. The right level I think is where she can confidently read the story, perhaps with a few words needing decoding, and can recount it all back.

In terms of the number of books - I would guess than in year 1 around 15 mins - 20 mins on average of reading homework a night is around that. If you are gettting one book a week and its taking less time that that you might want to go back to school and ask for more.

my ds is in yr1 equivalent class at French school and they do not learn to read at all until next year. (Just for perspective). And he can't read, though he's just starting to think that he might like to be able to.

wordsonascreen totally agree with the understanding. I'm glad that DS's school are taking it at a steady pace. He can read more difficult books but doesn't seem to enjoy them or understand them too well.

Think he is now on level 7 but actually wants to read the whole book as he is enjoying them, which is what it is all about

ORT level 10. Book band gold.

It will take us a few days to read a book cos they're quite long.

Quite a good reader, but not the best. One boy about to finish the reading scheme!

But, don't worry. As long as you can see progress, it doesn't matter what you are reading. As long as everyone is enjoying themselves.

and just to add more...

some schools like children to be challenged (ours) and be stretched by their reading books, others like the children to read every book in the reading scheme and hand out many a week (other schools).

So, I would say that comparing reading levels is a bit pointless because of the varying reading approaches.

Having finished level 2 I foolishly expected ds to move up to level 3. Instead he is on the pink colour which I think is level 1. With this amount of progress he'll be learning the alphabet next term .