New girl in DD's class going straight from year 1 into year 3.

[suwoo]

DD's class had their visit up to year 3 yesterday (combined infants and juniors). There was a girl who is going straight from year 1 up to year 3.

I thought from reading on here that that is not very common these days.

She must be exceptionally bright mustn't she?

But isn't skipping year 2 and going straight into juniors a really big thing social skills wise?

There is a cut off though isn't there. Like the boy in DD's class who's birthday is the 1st September, you could argue he was able to go up a year.

I had a girl in my yr 13 class (just left) who skipped at year at primary school, and therefore was a year younger than her peers throughout the rest of her schooling.

Yes, she was/is exceptionally bright - 6 AS levels (all at grade A, all above 90% UMS and some perfect scores in modules), 5 full A-levels (almost certainly very high A's again). Absolutely wonderful girl, very modest, very popular amongt peers, sporty, musical - pretty 'perfect' really . However, she is September born so really it wasn't that much of a jump.

There were certainly a few other students in her year group who are as academically able, perhaps slightly more so, but she did seem to have a special mix of academic and social maturity. I am pretty sure she would have coped well being moved up more than one year group.

I missed Y4 and went straight to Y5 in state primary. Our class was HUGE and the 5 brightest children were moved up a class to even them out and make them legal again. We all applied to secondary school a year earlier but were ALL refused as we were "too young". We had to repeat Y6 and, as we had literally done ALL the work, we had nothing to do and the teachers just kept telling us to read

There could possibly be too many children in KS1 and by moving her up they get around this.

Oh yes, thats a good point hocus.

What a waste of time MOM, that shows the 'other side' of being moved up a year.

This really happens extremely rarely in the UK state system now and is massively discouraged.
The only time I knew of it happening in recent years was when a child was entered into the wrong class due to issues surrounding her birth certificate. She was a Somalian refugee and her paperwork had been filled out incorrectly. When some original forms arrived the error was realized.

I'd be quite wary of this for my child, however bright, unless I was guaranteed that the secondary school would accept them out of year. Lots of schools won't, and having to repeat a year at that stage would be much worse than staying with their own age group from the word go.

Problem with skipping years is when you get to University level. When I was little it was a bit trendy to put people up a year.

But, when they got to 17 having done their A-levels a year early, many of the Universities were reluctant to take them because they didn't want to be responsible for non-adults! They got told to have a year out.

It would probably be impossible now with student loans (Can you borrow money if you are under 18?)

"We have a child in our school who follows the math programms with the class 2 years above his"

My son too as well as bits of other subjects. It's great doing it this way as he gets the teaching he needs in certain subjects but emotionally and socially he only has to cope with that which is expected for his age.

It works as a small school as there are more than one year to each class. I imagine at a bigger school they may have to do as in the OP

The ones that I know went up in the infants and straight through to university-there was no problem at all because they were September birthdays and the university year doesn't start until late September or even October.They were 18 by the time they went. An August birthday is nearly 1 yr behind some of the class so putting them up a year would be a problem. Putting up a September birthday, who could be one day behind, isn't a problem because they will be less than a month younger anyway.

This is a small one class per year school. In fact, this girl will take DD's class up to 25. Not sure how many are in the girls original year, maybe too many like someone suggested.

I am just so nosy curious, just how bright she is. I am expecting someone like this to turn up.

To not just do work with the older children but to actually move up to that year, given that it is very unusual as tambajam states, she must be very gifted.

pml at the pic! [grin}

Was going to suggest that some mistake had been made with birth certificate too. We had a boy who had to repeat year six becasue his mum had given the wrong date of birth when registering him (had moved from another school with mixed year group classes so she didn't know which year group he was in). This was in the days before birth certificates were shown. The mistake only came to light when the school nurse came to do year six medicals and he wasn't on the list. She consulted her records and found taht he was a year ahead of where he should be. Wonder if other parents thought he'd been kept back a year because he was so behind! He was very bright actually and we had to work really hard to stretch him as he'd been in the top set in year six when he was actually year five!

Suwoo, I know there is lots of media coverage of bright children portraying them all as freaks, but just give her a chance! Would you be as negative if it was a child who'd been kept down a year because she found learning really difficult?

This happened to ds in his last school. Due to numbers he was moved directly from Reception to Year 2 - and he's an August birthday. I was not consulted at all, just informed that there was a space in Year 2 and that he'd cope.

I was not happy, I can tell you, because he was about a quarter of the size of the other kids, and as it was a bit of a rough school as well, some of the boys were a bit intimidating.

We were moving house anyway so he went to another school back into Year 1 half-way through the year and that was much better.

I was a year ahead all through primary school, but then I'm an October birthday. I had to repeat the top year which was a bit of a waste of time.

I would say the reason is usually due to numbers rather than bowing down to the brilliance of an individual child.

Regarding secondary schools, the selective state grammar schools and independent schools we investigated would all allow entry a year early subject to entrance test results in the same way as the "normally" aged applicants.

My dd's school did mixed classes
yr r
yr 1 with 8 yr r's
yr 2 with 10 yr 1's
yr 2 only
they all came together in yr 3 - from yr 4 they are banded for lit & maths

dd was in yr 6 lit last yr & will be in extended class this yr, yr 5 maths last & yr 6 this coming

However, some boys who did yr6 maths this current school yr have to do it again!

I hope she dose ok socially, it definetely caaused social & peer issues with dd's reception group

In some ways puzzling, and in other ways no different (in this child's case), to an August birthday (where child is yr younger). I was pondering the other day, what would happen if I moved to Scotland. Would DS (aug) be moved back a yr. And if a child cae frm Scotland to UK do they get moved up a yr?

Oh englishpatient, I was only kidding! Of course I don't think she is a freak or anything of the sort.

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suwoo

I'm glad you know I wasn't being awful EP.

I am genuinely intrigued, as I said earlier DD is considered bright and her report actually said exceptional, so I am assuming this girl to be super bright, especially as I know its not common to do this.

I am just a sad, nosy bitch with nothing else to occupy me

i suspect that oushy parents may well have been one of the factors.

pushy parents

I was moved up a year in school when I moved from Primary to Junior school. This was at the suggestion of the psychologist tht the school sent me to as I refused to do any work for 6 months. My Mum remembers me constantly telling her I was bored and the work was too easy. The school did nothing about it other than send me to a 'specialist' to assess my behaviour.

I loved it when I got moved up a year as the work was 'interesting and exciting. It was never an issue when I moved to Senior School as I was born in December so not a huge amount younger than some of the other kids in my class.

I think the maturity and age of the child makes a difference to be honest, but I see no issue with it at all if the child can cope with it.