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Oxford Reading Tree books for 5yo - which ones actually have words?

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Shitemum · 10/04/2009 23:41

I am helping DD1 5.7yo prepare for starting P2 next August in Scotland. She is skipping P1 as she is at a Spanish infant school and they don't start primary till they are 6 yo here in Spain. So, anyway I have been recommended the ORT books but on Amazon the level one books with Kipper, Chip etc seem to start off with books that have no words, only pictures for discussion.
Questions:
Which are the first titles to have words in them? Is there a reading order?
Does it matter which books I start with - Kipper/ Chip etc. Are they the same level, just different characters or should I start with one character's stories and then do the others?
The ORT site doesn't seem to answer these questions.
Thanks!
If anyone has used copies of these first reading books I might like to buy them...

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MollieO · 11/04/2009 22:12

Personally I wouldn't bother with Read at Home or JP. RAH has too many none decodable words and JP has actions you need to learn which may be more of a distraction than a help. Floppy Phonics is a good starting point if Jelly & Bean or Songbirds don't appeal. I think the Usborne series are harder than the Read at Home ones so may be worth leaving for progress rather than starting (assuming you mean Toad builds a Road, Ted's Red Shed etc).

Shitemum · 11/04/2009 22:51

MollieO - Thanks.
I have a tendency to buy things that are too advanced!
Will go and look properly at the Floppy phonics range, Jelly and Bean and Songbirds.

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mrz · 12/04/2009 17:30

What type of things does your DD do at her present school?
If she hasn't begun to learn to "read" (phonics) then I wouldn't start with any reading scheme books until you speak to her new school and see what they intend to do. It is unlikely they will start her off with books until she has been taught the basics.

maverick · 12/04/2009 18:39

I suggest you contact Coral -she's very friendly, has bi-lingual children of her own -and is super knowledgeable about synthetic phonics:

www.phonicsinspain.com/about.html

Shitemum · 12/04/2009 21:58

maverick - thanks for the link, looks very interesting.

mrz - DD1 has been at full-time Spanish-speaking only infant school since she was 2yo. Little by little, over the last 3 years they have been introduced to the idea of reading and writing. First, when they were 2 yo they used photographs to symbolise their coat pegs, boxes for storing toys, the 2 sub-groups in the classroom etc, the idea being that children learn to 'read' symbols and pictures long before they can read actual words, then the following 2 years they did lots of work with geometric shapes which led in to learning the shapes of the capital letters (the theory is that capitals are easier to learn first as there is less variety in the way different people write them than with the lower case letters).

At this point, around 4 - 5 yo, they were doing work that involved finding specific letters in magazines and cutting them out, word searches (recognition of the shapes of the letters rather than reading the words) etc. The work in the school is project based and when the children wanted or needed to write something the teacher would write it on the whiteboard and they would copy it. The children were also gradually given more and more responsibility for counting heads at roll call and writing the date on the board etc, counting the children in younger classes in order to tell the cooks how many were present in the school for lunch etc.

They never sit down and do 'reading' or 'writing' as such it is just sort of an intrinsic part of whatever else they are working on.
Spanish is a lot easier to learn to read and write than English tho' - there are no dipthongs or different ways to pronounce the same letter depending what letters are next to it. 'A' is always 'ah'. 'O' is always 'oh'. Spelling is simple.

DD1 enjoys sounding out words and writing down words but when she tries to transfer what she knows about Spanish spelling and letter sounds to English the result is a little muddled.

I think we'll try the Level 1 Floppy's phonics books and see how we get on. We should know by the middle of next month which school she'll be going to and then I can ask them for more specific information about the level they'll expect her to have come August and how we can achieve it. I don't want her to be sidelined because she is behind, tho from what I've read on MN she is more likely to get extra help than be left to flounder!
Also she is so enthusiastic about reading that she seems to be making progress even with little intervention from me!

Thanks, sorry this is so long...

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haggis40 · 13/04/2009 23:46

Young children often embarrass us with the speed in which they learn and you will be amazed I promise you with the progress your DC will make, especially as it sounds as if you provide your child with a lot of learning opportunities. A list of the 50 most common words in English is available through any search engine and forms the basis of most reading schemes if you want to take a look at them. Practice the 24 initial sounds in whichever fun ways you can think of, either through books or games. Don't stress too much in the meantime. Speak to the teacher when you get the chance and she/he will give extra work if you're interested. The children's work will be differentiated and your DC will move up quickly I'm sure. Good Luck x

Shitemum · 14/04/2009 12:30

Thanks haggis40!

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ak12 · 21/04/2009 16:22

my daughter is 6 years old and in yr1, she is reading ORT stage 9 is this level good for her age? please help.

clayre · 21/04/2009 16:25

my daughter was 6 in feb and is in P1 and is on level 3, i think she is bottom of the class

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