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What sort of maths does your year 1 child do?

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Coldtits · 08/02/2009 16:57

I'm genuinely not being competative ... I am wondering if ds1 is getting the right level of work to do?

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Hulababy · 08/02/2009 17:38

Based on the NC targets, and what many primaries seem to go by...this is a simplified version of it.

By the end of Year 1, most children should be able to?

  • Count at least 20 everyday objects.

  • Count forwards and backwards in ones, starting from a small number.

  • Count forwards and backwards in tens (zero, ten, twenty, thirty?)

  • Read and write numbers to at least 20.

  • Put the numbers 0 to 20 in order.

  • Use the words first, second, third...

  • Given a number from 10 to 20, say the number that is 1 more, 1 less, 10 more, 10 less.

  • Use the words add, sum, total, take away, subtract, difference between? in practical situations.

  • Know by heart all pairs of numbers that make 10, e.g. 3 + 7, 8 + 2.

  • Add and subtract two numbers under 10.

  • Compare two objects or containers, and say which is longer or shorter, or heavier or lighter, or which holds more.

  • Name and describe simple flat and solid shapes, e.g. It's got 3 corners.

Hulababy · 08/02/2009 17:40

By the end of Year 2, most children should be able to?

  • Count to at least 100, and read and write numbers to 100.

  • Given any six numbers up to 100, put them in order.

  • Count forwards and backwards in ones or tens from any two-digit number

  • Recognise odd and even numbers.

  • Add and subtract numbers under 20 in their heads.

  • Know pairs of ?tens? numbers that make 100, e.g. 30 + 70.

  • Double and halve small numbers, e.g. double 9 is 18, and half of 18 is 9.

  • Know by heart the 2 and 10 times tables.

  • Find the total value of a handful of coins to £1.

  • Measure or weigh using metres, centimetres, kilograms or litres.

  • Use a ruler to draw and measure lines to the nearest centimetre.

  • Tell the time to the half and quarter hour.

  • Name and describe common 2-D and 3-D shapes.

  • Solve simple number problems, and explain how to work them out.

FAQinglovely · 08/02/2009 17:42

oh > DS2 must be better at maths than I give him credit for

DumbledoresGirl · 08/02/2009 17:43

Ds3 is in Year 1 and can already do most of the list for Year 2. In fairness, reading Hulababy's list has made me realise he is being stretched as he is clearly being taught the Year 2 curriculum.

CrackerNut · 08/02/2009 17:49

Ds is in yr1 and can do about half of what is on that list. They have just told me that he is behind in Maths though so not surprising really.

He is apparently always behind in something.

He enjoys Maths at the moment though so I am quite happy to let him carry on as he is with perhaps a tiny bit of help.

lljkk · 08/02/2009 18:10

By sheer coincidence I just found a homework sheet for exactly a year ago (when DD was Yr1). The 2 maths homework assignments (which you have to asume should be easy for most the kids) were:

Use a number square to count forwards and backwards in tens from any one digit number.

&

Measure some things at home using hand-widths; how many handwidths do you think an item will be before you measure it, and how many was it really? You can present the results in a table format if you like.

Very average sort of school, btw. hth

Hulababy · 08/02/2009 18:13

lljkk - thse two sound very much like the types of activities I have been helping children with in my Y1 class (am a TA)

Those lists are what is the norm - what most children will be able to do by the end of the year. Some will not be able to do everything, some will be able to do a lot more. All are within the normal parameters for the age.

DontSwimInTheLiffey · 08/02/2009 18:16

Well we're in Ireland but my six yr is doing really easy maths. Just stuff like writing out all the permutations of 9. 8+1 and so on, and other things that seem even easier. Basically exercises in pattern recongition.

alittlebitshy · 08/02/2009 18:21

At the moment dd is working through her times tables (didn't notice them on the lists above but assume is an obvious one so not listed . They're about to do their 8's I think.

Hulababy · 08/02/2009 18:27

Tiimes tables are not part of the Y1 syllabus. Most they need to do is counting in 10s forwards and backwards, and maybe in twos as well.

Y2 they do 1, 2, 5 and 10.

Rest not done til juniors.

Hve never known children do timetables in Y1, and certainly never 8s!!!

alittlebitshy · 08/02/2009 18:30

Really? oh ok- as far as i know none of them are struggling with them.

They've done 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10 - dd says it's 8's next. Will wait and see.

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Coldtits · 08/02/2009 19:07

Right, an explaination.

Ds1 tells me he is in the 'orange' group for maths, and that this group has the easiest work. So I am assuming he will be doing the lower end of the scale for year 1 pupils.

But he can, with a pencil and paper, add 246 to 317 (carrying the 10s). He is doing 2, 5 and 10 times tables (and he knows them). He can do his number bonds up to 20 but to be honest can carry them up quite a lot further than that (this is in his head).

However, he has been assessed by a consultant psych as having asd with hyperactivity. the teacher has been saying he doesn't concentrate well enough at school (and she is probably right) and they just don't have the staff to constantly follow him around - which I understand... but I can't help thinking that putting him in a group where his need for supervision is met has resulted in his need for education NOT being met.

I taught him to do the number carrrying sum in about 5 minutes. He does have an interest and an aptitude for numbers. So why is he being kept in the lowest group? Is this the best place for him to be and should I stop trying to add to his education at home?

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Coldtits · 08/02/2009 19:26

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Hulababy · 08/02/2009 19:28

alittlebitshy - have helped in DD's school and now work as a TA in Y1. Have never known any Y1 class do these timetables and they are way beyond many many Y1 children. Do they actually understand it all and how they work? Or are they just rote learning the tables, like you would do a song for example? I wonder why the teacher is doing these - they really do not appear on the NC curriculum at all at this stage.

Hulababy · 08/02/2009 19:30

Coldits - I think you need to go in and have a chat with the teacher about it. Not fair for him to be held back just becaus of his need for supervision. Does he has a statement or IEP at all?

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Coldtits · 08/02/2009 19:39

His iep basically states that he has to work faster and concentrate more, and that "adults will keep ds1 on track throughout the day"

He doesn't have a statement yet and won't get one until at least next year - it's taking a long long time for referrals to go through to the assessment centre here!

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Hulababy · 08/02/2009 19:40

Def go in. Being in the lower group could lead to more problems if your DS ends up bored and under stimulated.

Hulababy · 08/02/2009 19:43

Def go in. Being in the lower group could lead to more problems if your DS ends up bored and under stimulated.

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Coldtits · 08/02/2009 19:44

She has said though that the lower groups get more adult supervision. He does need adult supervision, pretty much constantly, or he is likely to get up and walk off, or unpick the staples from his workbooks, or just talk incessantly. But the 'higher' groups don't have an adult sitting with them all the time, and until he gets a statement (if he ever gets one) what can she do?

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LoveBuckets · 08/02/2009 19:44

ALBS it's not times tables they're actually learning, that would imply they could answer 4x5 etc. They're just practising counting in 4s, in the hope that the patterns might get subconsciously osmosed for future reference.

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Coldtits · 08/02/2009 19:46

See, ds1 can answer 4x5. So I don't undersatnd why she thinks the lowest group is the best place for him.

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Hulababy · 08/02/2009 20:23

Is there any real reason why he can't see on the lower tale but do the harder work?

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Coldtits · 08/02/2009 20:28

IO really don't know. I will talk to his teacher as ds1 may have entirely the wrong end of the stick. My concern is that if I keep teaching him things at the rate he wants to learn them (and with maths that is very quickly, wish it was as quick to teach him to stop banging things all day!) he's going to already know what they are trying to teach him at school, or I will teach him wrong.

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imaginaryfriend · 08/02/2009 21:06

Dd in Y1 doesn't do any times tables. They are doing pretty much what's on Hulababy's list although her group have been doing 'doubles' which dd struggles with if it adds up to something beyond 10. I think she could do all that list except know by heart all the pairs of numbers that make up 10.

nwmum · 09/02/2009 08:36

Hi

My dd is in yr1 and her class have done all on yr2 list including addition and subtraction to 100. They are currently working on their times tables and are up to 8's. They have a fortnightly test on the ones they have currently completed as well as standing up and saying each set as they complete. Also, they are working on problem solving and money sums up to £5