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Where can I get past SATS papers online?

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stellsie · 13/01/2009 14:47

I would be very grateful if anyone can answer this please, my DD is in Year 6 and they are doing to dreaded SATS in May so they are starting to practice each morning in class. Bless her, she came home yesterday and told me she got 12 out of 40 on the maths paper. She is in the 'lowest' class for maths but up until being given this result she actually quite enjoyed maths lessons and was beginning to get through her homework sheet each week happily. I dont want to pressurise her but I know that if we sit down and have a gentle practice a couple of nights a week she will hopefully get more confident.

thanks!

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MyTakenIdentity · 13/01/2009 15:22

Hi, our school provided revision books (at £1 each) for the SATs. Ihave already promised ours to Dniece, but uf you like I can try and find out the publisher for you?

stellsie · 13/01/2009 15:39

that would be great thanks. we have a mtg at the school next week so they might offer us something then, but not sure.

thanks again,

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MillyR · 13/01/2009 15:45

www.emaths.co.uk/KS2SAT.htm

JLo2 · 13/01/2009 15:59

Another one here

stellsie · 13/01/2009 16:01

thanks so much! this should keep (us) busy!

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memoo · 13/01/2009 17:25

Please please please don't worry about SATS!

SATS are designed to test the quality of the teaching that the children have received. Good SATS results looks good on the league tables.

They have absolutly no bearing on your childs education in primary or high school

MyTakenIdentity · 13/01/2009 20:58

stellsie, they are CGP (Coordination Group Publications) www.cgpbooks.co.uk
HTH x

stellsie · 14/01/2009 14:59

Thanks all for your replies, also thanks to mytakenidentity for giving me the publisher's name!

After reading memoo's reply and another thread on Year 6 SATS I am now unsure though as to whether I should be doing any extra work with my DD! All I worry about is that when the children are given their 'results' they will inevitably be saying to one another "oh what did you get for ..." etc etc and I know it will upset DD if she doesnt get a very good mark. By the way, I just want her to be happy - I would far rather she was the happiest child in the class than the most intelligent!

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LadyGlencoraPalliser · 14/01/2009 15:06

Take your cue from her. I strongly disagree with parents sitting their children down for compulsory extra revision for SATS. But if she wants you to help her at home, that is a totally different thing. If you can get her to do one paper at home with you it will give you a fair idea of what her weak spots are and what she needs to concentrate on. You need to work on filling in the gaps in her knowledge than going through the papers by rote. But if she wants to do it herself, then why not?

stellsie · 14/01/2009 17:16

good idea. i think i'll wait till the SATS meeting next week at the school to see what info they give us. i think DD would be quite happy to sit down (with me) and maybe answer a few questions for half hour or so.

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bellavita · 14/01/2009 17:58

We were asked by the Yr6 teacher to buy "Collins Revise & Shine" SATS books for maths and science.

DH ordered them from Amazon.

We were advised that they had to start the science as soon as we had got it (about the October) and the maths in January.

Cosette · 14/01/2009 18:12

My daughters did the chuckra 11+ tests, which are online and free - they have some printable ones too. I've no idea how similar they are to the SATS questions, but at the end of the day maths is maths, and they did quite enjoy doing them - they are auto marked too.
www.chuckra.co.uk/educational/practice-materials/11-practice-materials/11-maths.html

piscesmoon · 14/01/2009 21:47

The school will be helping her-they will want her to get a level4. She may well get extra help-they will at least tell you what to buy if you ask.

rachels103 · 20/01/2009 20:34

I wouldn't stress yourself or her too much about it...the paper she did was probably to set a benchmark and lots of pupils are not used to the format of the questions. They will get plenty of practice at school (too much possibly depending on the school).
If you want to help her, rather than overwhelming her with past papers which only test rather than teach, spend a bit of time with her helping with concepts she finds difficult. The BBC Revisewise website is quite fun and uses games. If you google 'coxhoe numeracy' there is another site with a huge range of games and activities.
The tests are only one snapshot of her ability, but before she moves to secondary school it is really important that she knows things like times tables and place value (i.e. what the digits in numbers stand for and what happens when you x and divide by 10 or 100) really well.
Sorry, long reply but HTH. (I'm a y6 teacher btw)

hellywobs · 21/01/2009 14:43

SATS are for the benefit of the school. I simply wouldn't bother doing practice papers. If you think she needs extra help, or more to the point, she has asked for extra help, then give her extra help in the areas she needs it but please don't give her SATS papers to plough through. Schools put far too much pressure on the kids.

Some seocndary schools will stream the kids based on SATS but any decent one will do their own tests on entry.

uberdadof5 · 09/01/2012 13:27

I was discussing preparation versus non-preparation with some other SMTs a few weeks ago at a conference, the thoughts were very interesting.

Basically there seemed to be two schools of thought with teachers - those that find/found SATs useful and those who do not. There's very little ground in between. The teachers that detest SATs generally do so because they see it as a big distraction to their teaching strategy. They dismiss it as being 'useless' to the school and child and that it will only result in the child becoming 'stressed/anxious' and likewise the teacher. They generally don't recommend children practice or prepare for them at home, indeed they wish everyone would just forget about them. I can sympathise with this, especially when you consider that they may see it as an invasion into their classroom. The 'no point' argument though, as an SMT, is silly.

The SMT folk that do like SATs though see things slightly differently. Whilst it is a distraction to the NC, they see the exam procedure as being good practice and preparation for the future. They also generally agreed that if they do stream the children into KS3, then the basis for this will be KS2 results. They generally wanted the parents to be actively involved in preparing the children for their SATs tests.

Both the pro-SATs and no-SATs SMTs agreed that when a child achieves a good SAT level, they carry this boost into the classroom. Both also agreed that the parents can make the children overly anxious about performance in their SATs, however it's difficult to really say whether this is significant since it's only the anxious parents that they tend to have contact with!

Personally, I always liked KS2/KS3 SATs. What we have now achieves the same thing but takes more time and is ironically more of an inconvenience. Besides, KS3 kids could really do with more tests before they hit GCSEs.

blackeyedsusan · 09/01/2012 13:48

if they are practising at school. I would find another format to help her practise maths at home. have you looked at the bbc bitesize website or other games websites? you are more likely to sneak the learning in through the back door. they are going to be thoroughly sick of sats by the time they actually do them.

uberdadof5 · 10/01/2012 09:53

We all remember those teachers that made a subject come alive when we were at school. Strangely for me they were always the most experienced ones that seemingly had no formal lesson plans or organisation, they just loved their subject.

LittenTree · 10/01/2012 20:21

I think SATS are useful for several reasons:

-They introduce the concept that sooner or later you're going to have to prove what you know and the usual way is through tests and exams. The DC who crumbles at KS2 SATS (or is never set up to tackle them) is going to struggle at secondary.

-Pre SATS it was perfectly possible for a DC to go through school from 4-16 with their only testing, both of them and of the quality of their teaching- to be a failed 11+

-They ensure the curriculum has been taught

-Previous papers show me where DS has got weaknesses/hasn't grasped something

-It focuses the mind!

Personally, I believe SATS test the DC as well as the teaching. But I want to make it clear my DS2 is by no means academic (we hope he'll get 4's in this May's SATS- Literacy might be a struggle...!) so I'm not speaking as a parent who is looking forward to the potential smug preening of the parent of a clever child!

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