Why do some infant teachers hate boys?

[ReallyTired]

My son's year 1 teacher just doesn't get boys. Apparently about four to five boys mucked about in class. As a result she decided that every boy in the class should miss golden time. All the girls got their full quota of golden time.

Its no wonder that many of the boys are very resentful and hate her.

This teacher complains that my son doesn't listen. My son wears hearing aids and finds it hard when there is a lot of background noise.

Even if all the boys were making the background noise, it seems harsh having a class punishment. I am sceptical that all the girls were perfect.

we're holding DD1 back a year. she has dyspraxia as well as other SN and i laughed out loud at the minutes from her pre-SCAT meeting when the ed psych recorded what the excuse for a teacher had said about DD1's visit during the induction days.

she felt that DD1 had a 'strong interest in playing and socialising with other children'.

um, yes, most just-turned-5-year-olds do.

i mean, seriously, all these news stories about violent teenage boys and angry young males.

where do they think it's all coming from?

truly, because this seems a common problem.

surely changing the education system to start so young and be tested far too much and basically assigned and labelled from early childhood as naughty little boys or problem child or behavioural problems has something to do with it.

kids aren't allowed to act like children in this society.

and it's fucking them up.

sounds like a good plan then.

I lolled too, what else is a 5 yr old supposed to do? Show a docile obedient personality and only be interested in things the teacher has already planned into the day?

I tihnk all children would benifit from more free physical activity opportunities at this age.

(Hijack- expat, as a fellow climber can I point you to the pics of DS climbing on my profile?)

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The education sysatem id fucking them up and not providing them with what they actually need. It makes me angry sometimes.

I think the problem is twoford though, a lot of parents don't just leave kids alone to act as children in our society any more, and other adults don't tolerate children just being children either. We may have moved on from the days of 'children should be seen and not heard', but we haven't moved on quite enough.

We don't, as a society, give children much freedom or respect do we?

He's adorable, OMDB!

Of course, PE time is being constantly cut in most schools.

So it's sit still in class.

The school DD1 was supposed to attend was a composite class, P1-3.

And I chuckled when the teacher says, 'When I set the P1's (these kids are 4.5-5, btw) a task, I need them to get on with it.'

Yeah, I'm sure you have a lot of success with that, lady!

That's exactly the type of person I want hanging round my kids!

I felt like saying, 'I have a question. If you expect 5-year-olds to act unsupervised, doesn't that make you rather superfluous as a teacher?'

I didn't, though.

The old me would have .

My mom said, 'Maybe she was just having a bad day (yah, right, Mum, she thought this a fortnight before the fucking pre-SCAT meeting at the induction day and sat on it). If you have to send her there why not try to get on her good side.'

My dad chimed in with, 'I'd have told her to go to hell. You're renting, there's no reason why you can't move so she doesn't have to go there. I'll give you the money. Just let me know.'

I love my Papa .

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I agree, OMDB.

there's not a lot of room anymore for kids to act like kids.

playparks sold off for flats.

play schemes and outdoor education budgets slashed.

community centres closed.

NIMBies objecting to things like skate parks being built around them, etc.

there was even a boy here in Scotland who was threatened with an ASBO.

for practicing his bagpipe for an hour from 4-5 3x/week in his yard.

oh that is so ridiculour expat!

That teacher sounds horrible. DS's teacher is always saying "oh they're still so little, it's really just about letting them play at this age" she's great. Still not enough PE though.

Any chance you can move to spare your DD that hellish woman?

oh, we'll be moving.

she's having another year at a private nursery with in house OT and SALT, she's 5 and with the dyspraxia she can't grip a pencil much at all and has other delays.

but after that year is up our landlords were coming back in october, 2009 anyhow so we'll just need to move in august instead.

because i'm not having my child with someone who already has a prejudice against her.

my child may not be the brightest, but her nursery teachers and all her carers love her because she is a beautiful person - she is thoughtful, kind-hearted, automatically generous to others, extremely tolerant and open-minded of others and always thinks and sees the best in others. she is terrific with animals, too, and loves to be outside.

she has many friends at her present nursery, and will be joined at the other place by two others she knows, plus a little boy who has to be held back for cancer treatment whose mother i know through our landlords.

then we hope to move to the school where her nursery is attached.

it's a more 'deprived' district, but the people are anything but in their kindness and open-mindedness.

your DD sounds absolutely lovely expat, all those qualities she has will get her much further in a happy fulfilled life than at what age she could grip a pencil 'correctly'. She's lucky to have such a caring passionate mum who's clued in to her individual needs.

Sounds like you're definately doing the right thing by moving.

EVERYONE has different strengths.

And the world's a better place when that's acknowledged.

That's what I loved so much about climbing - there was a place for literally everyone.

The wilderness was the great equaliser. You came there and if you didn't show your respect for your surroundings it didn't matter who are what you were, you would ultimately pay for that.

I met people from so many different backgrounds, ages, etc, and learned about patience, about acceptance, about recognising and valuing strengths and weaknesses in others and ultimately myself.

To me, school's great. But people need to learn that there's more to life than that, or anything else.

It's not healthy to try to get people to focus themselves on one thing.

You learn to put all your eggs in one basket.

And when that happens, you and the world lose out, becuase everything automatically becomes a whole lot smaller.

Exactly Expat.

I think your last post is possibly the best post I've read on mumsnet in a very long time.

People are all different, and we can't all be crammed into a 'one size fits all' box. It doesn't work.

The wilderness certasinly is the great equaliser.

Your son will learn this from you, OMDB.

Even if he has teachers like the OPs, with the background you're giving him, it can be a lighter load as he'll know there's more to the world than one old cow trying to make life bothersome.

That problems can have more than one solution or sometimes, there's no solution and you just have to accept that and not let it ruin your life.

That's why we came out here and want to get settled and have more pets and why we grow things and enjoy being outside in all weathers.

To show our girls that there's more to life than stuff and getting wound up over one particular situation.

'There's more than one answer to these questions
Pointing me in a crooked line.
And the less I seek a source for some definitive
Closer I am to fine . . . '

MMJ, I've been fans of theirs for a loooonnnggg time. Been to see them live 4x and they are bar none the best gig I've ever seen.

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one of my all-time favs of theirs.

My son's reception teacher only liked the pretty, quiet, clever little girls that never questioned and just got on with whatever she told them to do. It came to a head shortly after my husband died when she told my 4 year old she didn't want him in her school any more. When I spoke to her she said he was crying in class to get sympathy !

mrz - thats' appalling! Is that cow still teaching?

Words fail me, mrz! It is simply appalling.

No cornsilk next morning she didn't turn in to school which was probably just as well as "granny" was livid ...she took early retirement and his new teacher was wonderful.

glad she retired early mrz.

I don't think anyone said it was solely responsible for violent youth belgianbun. But neither is it blameless.

Most research shows that in mixed classrooms, girls are overlooked in favour of boys. There is some research that shows that girls answer one in sex questions in a secondary classroom. I'm sure that boys and girls do behave differently but the idea that boys are discriminated against doesn't really stand up for me.