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BDUSETW · 02/10/2025 00:49

I watched years ago on a tv documentary about how children were taught in schools in countries like Sweden, Norway, scandinavia in general, and then thought, our schools are so draconian and self destroying of our pupils. They did not have homework, not like our country, our children coming home with many pieces of homework a night, staying up late to finish it, struggling with it, and the same again every day. Then teachers having to mark not just one classes homework, but many daily, piling up on their desk during teaching hours , and pupils needing any help during class are not able to get the one to one assistance because the teacher is too busy marking homework daily during class.
The amount of homework is huge, and our children are tired, been at school all day, then have to come home, eat dinner and start school all over again, sometimes up to and even beyond midnight 2 to 4 or more lots of homework.
Its unbelievable.
In the other countries they do not believe in homework, the countries in scandinavia. They say their work is finished at the end of the day, and the children go home, to then relax, and come back refreshed the next day. The homework is not even necessary, because it is not going to be of any consequence towards their eventual exams, nothing in the homework is at all worth learning, as what matters are the basic literal knowlwege of common sense in their education.
Yes learn maths, but not maths that becomes so far fetched in respect of it never being part of an adults life at all.
I remember my child asking how to work out a maths question, my husband was good at maths at school but could not comprehend those questions as were just so rediculous, so I asked the teacher about it, she quietly said I do not even understand it. So what is going on ...??
Who are the people who create these newfangled rediculous mathematical questions that even the teachers do not get? Also, the schools are not preparing the children for the real world, all they want is top marks from children in drumming in so much information that they will never need in their life after school.
The other countries ie scandinavia do not do homework, they even stick with the same teacher from primary to leaving school, no uniform but sensibly dressed, the teacher is called by his or her christian name, they learn alot outside the class as opposed to always being in the classroom, so they are hands on in reality of life of what is to come, they also eat fresh good lunch at school, so they eat well, are treated as equals with the teacher, and respect is between both the teacher and pupil, no homework!!!
So the children do not have to be so tired the next day coming into school after doing several pieces of homework every night. So if you wonder how do they do in their exams, well they are the highest achieving in results in europe and beyond. That is why our schools are failing, our teachers are stressed, our children having mental issues and labelled this that and the other, its our way of education that fails.!!! Change it.
No more homework , teach what they need to know in life, do workshops in and out of school that teach different hands on subjects, they will understand and enjoy, but will need. Teach French and if want other countries languages but not one or 2 lessons a week and expect them to take those exams and pass! Teach in primary classes, daily, because all French and other European countries do this so then they can speak fluent English by the time they've left school.!! Ours have to struggle to try and put a sentence together in any other language.!

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Readyforslippers · 03/10/2025 07:06

RosesAndHellebores · 03/10/2025 06:57

Largely maths and English then Grin. Times tables can't be more than 12 ticks x 30. Mine used to swap books and they marked each other's

Well dd's times tables tend to be sheets of about 25-50 questions sometimes, so I think probably a little more than 12. I think it's too much in a day for the children and adults involved really. A less is more approach would probably lead to more retention and greater understanding, but that's down to the curriculum they have to follow.

anotherfinemess1 · 03/10/2025 07:21

People always compare our education system negatively with Scandinavia. It was really good to hear from an actual Finnish parent - thank you! - as a lot of myths are peddled. The world is very large and I don’t believe we’re an outlier among global developed nations. At a primary school I taught in a few years ago we had a teacher from California and she was horrified at how little homework is set and how little work the parents do at home with their children in England. My nephew is growing up in New Zealand and he’s always had comparable levels to England. And as for the world’s most successful economies - the Chinese system is brutal! Schools days till 5 or 6 then tutoring or homework till 10, at primary level. I have been told this by a couple of Chinese parents who made the decision to move to England because our system is so homework-free and they didn’t want to subject their children to the pressure.

viques · 03/10/2025 11:37

BDUSETW · 02/10/2025 22:30

Right, well ok... I got the countries wrong , but this is where I should of said.. Copied from online... "Countries with no- or low-homework policies for some or all primary students include Finland, Estonia, and Poland, which have seen success with their approaches focusing on student well-being and shorter school days. While Finland emphasizes short school days, professional teacher independence, and encourages family time, Estonia has short school days and high learning productivity, and Poland implemented a ban on required homework for grades 1-3 and optional homework for other primary grades in 2024 to reduce stress and increase time for development. "
I also did not mean primary school in uk age children having alot of homework, I meant secondary aged school children. Mine actually came home with alot of homework a week. They went to a secondary school in Witley Surrey. So much homework.!
I also did not like the Milford school in Surrey back in early 2000s remembering teachers were told by the head who was actually awful as I remember, who brought in a ruling that any child even slightly doing something in the classroom, for eg, a child waslooking out of the window when it was snowing!! ( which the teacher decided was a mark against them,) which is put in their book that they take home,ie homework book, to then have their parents see it, so then getting possibly told off again. It was disgusting. Wether anyone believes it or not, makes no difference to me, as I know this happened. I am not here to pull apart the education system, I believe in it working better in schools for both teachers and children. The actual fact teachers did mark homework in the classes when my children were at school happened during lessons. I saw this,. I went in to take something for my child during lessons and the teacher was sat marking book loads of homework on her desk, while several children were standing in a queue waiting to ask a question. She was short tempered with them, as she was having to juggle teaching and marking so much homework. That was the late 1990s in a school in elstead. If I know what I know now, and the stress it all was, I would of considered teaching my children from home. Say what you all wish to say about my comments, its supposedly a free country.. 🤔

I think you will find that things have changed in UK schools during the past 30plus years!

It’s no good hanging on to resentments that you have about your own school days, they really have little or no bearing on how schools operate today.

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