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Learning the times tables

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prettybird · 28/05/2008 10:16

my ds has belatedly finally started learing the times tables. He is 7.8 and in the top "maths" group in his P3 class (equivalent of Y2 in England).

He has been desparate to learn the times tables for ages and has been being bored by the maths he has been doing at school (I have posted on previous threads fro advice as to whether we were being unreasonably pushy in expecting the school to be stretching him more).

As a result, we had started doing a wee bit of work with him at home - at his insitigation. We had been careful not to teach him by rote, athough we do have a times table chart up on the kitchen wall (and he is very proud of the fact that he knows 12x12! ). We made him work things out for himself - ie 4x3 was 4 groups of 3 that he needed to add together. I even added in "grouping" after a comment at school - ie 4 x 3 could also be seen as two grups of doubled up threes, ie 2 x 6. he was comofrtable doing thins like 4 x 5, 6 x 6 etc.

Having said that, now that he has started doing it "properly" at school, he seems to have gone backwards and totally lost the concept. His homework last night took a lot of effort for him to get right. Initially he was coming up with things like 6 x 5 = 28, 4 x 3 = 18.

It was all I could do to persuade him not to go into the kitchen to look up the table. Dh finally got him to work out using boxes of his wine tasting glasses and getting him to see that 5 x 6 was 30 etc(we'd love ds to tell his teacher how he worked it out, given that she has told the class that "God says that alcohol is bad and no-one should drink it" )

What can we do to support him in learning the times tables without undermining the school? How should we explaining it to him? is there a strange new technique that we are not aware of?

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Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
MrsGuyOfGisbourne · 29/05/2008 09:01

yes - it seems to work

stuffitllama · 29/05/2008 12:00
Grin
justdidntthink · 30/05/2008 12:29

At the school wher I work the children i work with are encouraged to learn by rote, saying the whole 'number sentence' ie: 4x3+12 rather than just the answers. This is because several of us attended a series of training days by an inspirational maths professor ( Richard Dunne) whose idea is that we can train children to DO before they are able to understand. If they can 'do' maths, they can at least cope in the classroom and the understanding will come later. We began to use this method with the SEN children a few years ago and found that they were beginning to overtake the G+T kids in actually being able to calculate( even though the G+T kids understood the reasoning!) so now, they are all encouraged to learn in this way!
We use numbershark at school and yes, it is brilliant!
Something I often do with 'my' sen children is to encourage them to sing their times tables! They choose a song they like and between us we work out how to fit the words of the times tables into it. We have lots of fun doing this and they enjoy learning.
We consider they know their tables when they can answer random tables questions within 5 seconds.
Hope some of this helps.

justdidntthink · 30/05/2008 12:30

oops! should have been 4x3=12!

stuffitllama · 30/05/2008 16:57

that's great
doing before they understand -- really boosts the confidence!
(not being sarky i really think this)

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