What do you think about shouty teachers?

[LavendersBlueDillyDilly]

I don't mean those that raise thier voices when necessary to be heard, or on occasions when real displaesure at children's behaviour requires demonstarting.

I mean those that use it as an almost constant method of communication in the classroom, and to give all instructions and corrections, and with an undertone of irrattion and displasure.

I'm sure you know the type.

There are a few of these in my DS's school and it makes me very sad to think of them in this envoronment all day.

And I say this as a strict mother who is known to shout not irregulary herself, but who would hate it to be the ethos and way of communicating in my home.

Dd has one of these and I'll be glad when she's finished in that class and moved onto a new teacher. I don't think it's done her confidence any good at all.

dd1 had a very shouty swimming teacher. I did not like the way that she talked to the children, and nor did my daughter.

I don't like em

I don't have any shouty teachers

I am 38 years old

I have been in some classrooms (observing as part of my job)where I felt that the teachers interactions with pupils is bordering on emotional abuse.

apart from anything else,those tachers must be absolutely miserable themselves, in spending all thier working lives in that state.

Unfortunately I don't think they are that rare.

Obviously I am refering to teachers of children, most likely our own children, this being Mumsnet and all.

Or maybe not obviusly.

I remember at school we had zero respect for the shouty teachers.

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I think dd's behaviour reflects the shouty teacher, she's a lot shorter tempered and shouts at her toys to do things, it's quite sad really that her first experience of school has thrown this at her. I'm trying to be stoic and think 'if she can cope with this she can cope with anything'. She's got such a lovely bunch of kids in her class though, it's a shame they're not being more nurtured and encouraged.

I don't like them and I doubt many kids being taught by them like them either.

yp you definitely get the impression dd's teacher doesn't like kids. Even when she greets them on the door she says hello through barred teeth!

I've witnessed so many incidents with her but one really sticks in my mind. A little boy had brought in a model he'd made at home to show her and she said coldly 'x, what have you brought that in for? Are you allowed to have toys at school?' The mum explained he'd made it and wanted to show it off but the teacher ignored the mum and said to the boy 'take it out again and don't bring in any more toys.' He was completely deflated. Horrible.

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No - she scares me too!

I think she's very efficient and knows her stuff but totally lacks people skills. None of the mums are happy with her and the kids are obviously nervous around her. She'd be so much better moving into a less hands on area of education.

I have an appointment with my DS2's teacher in half an hour where I am going to tell her he is scared of her, and doesn't want to come to school because she shouts so much.

I may stop at asking her why she does the job though

Wish me luck!

Good luck LBDD. You have every right to raise this. I had a similar situation at nursery with one of the staff and ended up in tears in the manager's office. Turned out they all knew she was short-tempered and had addressed it with her before. I think this is less problematic in nursery as there are more staff, but if this is your child's teacher you are definitely doing the right thing by raising it.

Out of interest, roughly what age is the teacher?

She shouldn't need to shout. I should raise it and tell her that your DC is intimidated.

shouty teachers are bad teachers - teaching is about educating not scaring.

DH says he is shocked at how shouty some of the teachers at the DSs' school are. And as DH tends to be quite on the shouty side himself, they must be quite bad!

They are rubbish teachers. Any teacher that is shouting more than very occasionally has lost control and has no where to go. If your DD is being intimidated you should speak up (excuse pun). If Ofsted were to hear of this they would not be best pleased, it is not exactly good practice.

I don't like shouty teachers....and i don't like shouty football coaches even more!

Lavenders Blue - what did she say?

She was very shocked and taken aback, she definitely didn't see herself this way atall.

I said he was scared, she said 'what of' and I told her it was her and that on her day he doesn't want to go to school.

I actually felt a bit sorry for her, she said 'oh no that's awful.'

It had to be said though and maybe it will help her in the long run have more of an idea about how she comes across.

I think shouting can become a habit teachers (and parents) can become unaware of.

Anyway to give her credit she is putting some measures in place to build his confidence and make him happier.

so not quite such a bad teacher after all (shame faced at my hatred for her this morning)

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When ds started junior school, he was very nervous of his new teacher as he always seemed to be shouting. I went in to see teacher on a totally different matter and came out and asked ds:
-Did you realise he's deaf in one ear and quite hard of hearing in the other?
Ds decided to give teacher another chance and soon discovered that he was a lovely man. Ds cried when he announced that he was due to retire.

cross-posted with Orinoco

I used to hear ds's teacher booming when I was walking down the road.

Dd also had a teacher who shouted a lot, and in her case it was about discipline problems. But dd also discovered that she was really kind and caring about her disability.