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4+ Assessments 2025

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KnackeredBunny · 22/05/2025 11:24

Main thread for 2025 applications. Can’t find the previous thread for 2025 but from memory it has a typo in the title. I’ve only made this one to make sure everyone finds it easily!

Advice from previous assessments gladly taken. This is our first time applying. It’s a little early still so why don’t we start with where everyone is applying?

We’re looking at The Hall, Alleyn’s, Habs, Highgate UCS, and Manor Lodge. Have looked at some prep from previous threads and starting to think we’re seriously under-prepared…

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KnackeredBunny · 22/05/2025 11:30

This is for a September 2026 start date!

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getsetdad · 22/05/2025 14:19

We are doing the Hall, Highgate, UCS, Habs and ASL. We’re not doing any prep other than what we already ordinarily do in trying to give our son a varied and happy childhood. Nursery seems good at filling in the blanks, but at home we are not forcing him to do silly things like cutting zig zag lines or drill him phonics. A content kid is likely to do better than an overly prepped one is my view. Tutoring a 3 year old is in my opinion madness. If I am wrong, so be it - plenty of lovely enough non-selective schools around.

ladyfusion · 22/05/2025 14:42

Both of my children were fortunate to receive offers from Highgate — my eldest is already at the school, and my youngest will be starting at the Pre-Prep this September after going through the 4+ assessment last winter.
As a parent who also supported many families preparing for entry into top North London schools — I wanted to share a few thoughts that might help if your child is sitting the 4+ this year.
Every child is different, and no one-size-fits-all approach works. But here are five tips that many families have found genuinely useful:
1. Build independence early
Encourage your child to manage simple tasks like putting on their coat, washing hands, or tidying up toys. These everyday skills help children feel more secure and capable in a new environment.
2. Prioritise language and communication
The 4+ isn’t just about academic performance — it’s also about listening (can your child sit through the whole story for 15-20 min?), expressing ideas (there will be questions during and after reading the story!), and engaging with others (will your child share a toy, take turns or collaborate when building the longest line out of LEGO DUPLO?). Read together daily, ask open-ended questions, and help your child feel confident in using their voice.
3. Practise calm separations
Children will be asked to go into assessments without their parents. Practising smooth, reassuring goodbyes at nursery can help your child feel safe and prepared when the time comes. If your child will refuse to go inside without you, that might affect your child's assessment in a negative way.
4. Embrace play-based preparation
Activities like puzzles, threading, cutting, colouring, and role play all support the fine motor skills, focus, and imagination that teachers always quietly observe (they always do!).
5. Keep the pressure low
The most helpful thing you can do is protect their sense of joy, curiosity, and confidence. Schools are not looking for perfection — they’re looking for potential and growth mindset. Will your child give up if given a challenging task or will they trying again and again and again?
If you’re just starting out and feeling unsure, I completely understand ❤️ I’m happy to share anything I’ve learned — feel free to reach out. You’ve got this, and so does your little one! 💯🌟

KnackeredBunny · 22/05/2025 18:00

@ladyfusionthis is unbelievably helpful, thank you! Struggling with the growth mindset stuff. Any other tips on that one? I know he’s intelligent but he’s also a perfectionist. He observes before he does, and can be reserved when he knows he’s on the spot.

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KnackeredBunny · 22/05/2025 18:03

getsetdad · 22/05/2025 14:19

We are doing the Hall, Highgate, UCS, Habs and ASL. We’re not doing any prep other than what we already ordinarily do in trying to give our son a varied and happy childhood. Nursery seems good at filling in the blanks, but at home we are not forcing him to do silly things like cutting zig zag lines or drill him phonics. A content kid is likely to do better than an overly prepped one is my view. Tutoring a 3 year old is in my opinion madness. If I am wrong, so be it - plenty of lovely enough non-selective schools around.

Same taste in schools 😝 Agreed, tutoring is mad! Although I can see an argument for it if your little one doesn’t go to nursery at all.

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ladyfusion · 22/05/2025 18:26

@KnackeredBunny Happy to help! When it comes to growth mindset, here are a few things that I do to support my own kids or my pupils:

  1. I always value effort over perfection and praise the effort, not just the result. Say, your child couldn't zip their jacket, you could say "I love how hard you tried. You kept going even if it's so tricky!" You all might think - it's such a tiny difference, but trust me - kids feel it very well.
  2. I incorporate growth mindset techniques into daily play, e.g. obstacle course when I make sure a child can do some parts and can't do others perfectly well but it's still fun or build something using LEGO DUPLO, then say something like "That was awesome! Let’s make it even bigger and better this time."
  3. I read my kids and pupils lots of stories about resilience such as Giraffes Can’t Dance, The Dot, Ish, After the Fall (How Humpty Dumpty Got Back Up Again), Beautiful Oops!, The Most Magnificent Thing.
Hope this helps! Good luck with your 4+ prep 💪
Mumss · 22/05/2025 21:27

Hello, for Habs do you think they will assess a summer born child differently compared to a winter born child?

KnackeredBunny · 22/05/2025 21:58

@ladyfusionthank you 🙏 your kids are lucky to have a teacher for a mother. Please stay on this thread we need you too!

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KnackeredBunny · 22/05/2025 22:01

@MumssI’m seriously hoping less is expected of summer borns, my DS isn’t very practised in things like cutting with scissors or drawing…

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getsetdad · 23/05/2025 08:28

Mumss · 22/05/2025 21:27

Hello, for Habs do you think they will assess a summer born child differently compared to a winter born child?

My understanding at all schools that’s the case - understandably. Though it does seem schools from what I hear end up with more winter kids, than summer - but that could be hearsay and I don’t know!

KnackeredBunny · 23/05/2025 08:34

@getsetdadmaybe that’s also because there are more winter born kids?

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SummerIce · 23/05/2025 08:43

ladyfusion · 22/05/2025 14:42

Both of my children were fortunate to receive offers from Highgate — my eldest is already at the school, and my youngest will be starting at the Pre-Prep this September after going through the 4+ assessment last winter.
As a parent who also supported many families preparing for entry into top North London schools — I wanted to share a few thoughts that might help if your child is sitting the 4+ this year.
Every child is different, and no one-size-fits-all approach works. But here are five tips that many families have found genuinely useful:
1. Build independence early
Encourage your child to manage simple tasks like putting on their coat, washing hands, or tidying up toys. These everyday skills help children feel more secure and capable in a new environment.
2. Prioritise language and communication
The 4+ isn’t just about academic performance — it’s also about listening (can your child sit through the whole story for 15-20 min?), expressing ideas (there will be questions during and after reading the story!), and engaging with others (will your child share a toy, take turns or collaborate when building the longest line out of LEGO DUPLO?). Read together daily, ask open-ended questions, and help your child feel confident in using their voice.
3. Practise calm separations
Children will be asked to go into assessments without their parents. Practising smooth, reassuring goodbyes at nursery can help your child feel safe and prepared when the time comes. If your child will refuse to go inside without you, that might affect your child's assessment in a negative way.
4. Embrace play-based preparation
Activities like puzzles, threading, cutting, colouring, and role play all support the fine motor skills, focus, and imagination that teachers always quietly observe (they always do!).
5. Keep the pressure low
The most helpful thing you can do is protect their sense of joy, curiosity, and confidence. Schools are not looking for perfection — they’re looking for potential and growth mindset. Will your child give up if given a challenging task or will they trying again and again and again?
If you’re just starting out and feeling unsure, I completely understand ❤️ I’m happy to share anything I’ve learned — feel free to reach out. You’ve got this, and so does your little one! 💯🌟

100% this.

We applied for several of the NW London / Hertfordshire preps listed in the OP to start this coming September and had offers from all. DS was 3.5ish when we did the assessments. We did no tutoring or prepping at all and nor did DS’s nursery. Instead, what they really want to see is a confident child who is happy to be away from their parents and listen, follow instructions and communicate well.

That said, we had taught DS to write his name and count to 20. His nursery is completely play based so we had taught him those things just so he knew them. It turned out writing his name was useful when he had to put his name on the drawings he did.

We also approached each assessment as a play date or pretended DS was going to see the school himself so they could show it to him and he can tell us if he likes it. He had no idea he was being assessed or that he needed to behave a certain way.

Lavieestbelle2024 · 23/05/2025 10:04

KnackeredBunny · 23/05/2025 08:34

@getsetdadmaybe that’s also because there are more winter born kids?

I think that's usually the case but at my DS's London prep school 10 out of 19 kids in his (reception) class have birthdays after 1st May!

Rosierosie2 · 25/05/2025 21:47

At my kid’s school it’s the opposite - my dd has March birthday and there are only 5 kids that are younger than her / 24.

My DD got all her offers also and I agree separation is important (in her assessment at NLCS, a girl got taken out early after 20 mins or so as they couldn’t stop crying).

hertsmumma · 10/06/2025 09:44

We did assesements last year and my son was lucky to get several offers.

i found a post on mumsnet really useful- I can’t find the thread but have a copy on my phone

this is the advice that was given:

3+ Entry Option: If a school offers entry at 3+, consider this route. It tends to be less competitive, with a more favorable ratio of applicants to spaces, and assessments are more play-based rather than academic.
Feeder Nurseries: If you have a preferred school, check if it has feeder nurseries. While it doesn’t guarantee entry, it can increase your chances.
Long-Term Commitment: If your plan is to stay at the school until 11+ or beyond, carefully consider the commute, factoring in peak traffic and logistics of drop-offs and pick-ups. Also, explore any wrap-around care options the school provides.
School Visits: Visit all the schools you are considering on their open days to get a feel of the school and culture. Ask friends or family who attend the school but ultimately go with your gut as everyone’s child is different. A school for one child may not be a fit for a school for different child- we certainly felt that way with our twins. Also take peoples opinions with pinch of salt, we’ve had people that disliked a school but when we visited we loved it. Everyone has different opinions and different things which are important to them eg for some academics is more important for others it’s nurturing or pastoral care. ultimately you know your child and what will be best for them.
Limit Applications: Try to only apply to the schools you are sure about. I have twins (boy and girl) so had numerous assessments and we were undecided between co-ed or single sex that we ended up applying to multiple schools. Whilst it’s good practice, assessments can be stressful process for the parent not for the child- but it can be overwhelming for the child and can put them off going to ‘big school play date’ don’t forget you have to pay to register for assessments so this can add up. In the end we wish we hadn’t applied to so many schools and really narrowed it down to 3. Easier said than done I guess!
Financial Planning: Be mindful of the potential impact of VAT on school fees when budgeting.
The Assessment Process
Age Consideration: Age is definitely taken into account. All the schools we applied to split the children up by age group or took into account the child’s age. Expectation is higher for the older kids than the summer younger kids. Some schools tailor the activity according to the age of the child, others keep the same activity but have different bench marks depending whether child is older or younger.
Twins: If you have twins like us and applying to a co-ed school, expect them to be in separate groups for the assesement.
Stages: Every school has a different process. Some have 1 stage assessment; others have two stages. Some schools do mixture of group activities to see how children interact with one another, and others do 1:1 assessment with a teacher. Again the types of activities done at these assessment varies across the different schools and we found that the assessments had changed from last year as things out friends told us that came up in their kids assessment didn’t come up for ours this year.
Scheduling: You may be assigned an inconvenient time slot—only request changes if absolutely necessary. We were given a 1pm slot for one of our assessments but had to go through it despite it being nap time!
Illness: Inform the school if your child is unwell on assessment day.
Separation Anxiety: Don’t worry if your child cries during separation; many who do still receive offers. Teachers are experienced in handling these situations.
Preparing for 4+ Assessments
Avoid Tutoring: yes as crazy as it sounds some parents tutor their kids for these assessments. Thats tutoring a child at 3 years old! All the schools I visited strongly advised against this. One teacher even told me that as trained teachers they can tell who’s been tutored and who hasn’t. Some children go to a certain well known tutor and all end up drawing the same picture and style and it’s clear and obvious to teachers. This may actually backfire.
Play date: Tell your child they’re going to a “big school play date” or “exploring a new school,” not an assessment. If it’s within your parenting style, reward them after attending an assessment as it gets them excited for the next one. We bought little toys for them.
Reading and writing: Your child is not expected to be able to read or write- even the top schools such as Habs said this is not an expectation, despite people telling us otherwise.
Prep Activities: While it’s said you can’t prepare, activities like coloring, cutting, building with blocks, creating patterns, threading, counting to 10, and writing their name can be helpful. Incorporate these into play, not structured lessons, as they are still young.
Physical Assessments: Some schools not only do academic assessment but also physical assessments to assess gross motor skills, fine motor skills etc. My kids were asked to hop, skip, jump in one of their assessments.
Avoid Burnout: We started ‘prepping’ doing above activities a 2 months before first assessment. I had friends that started way earlier like 4 months and as it got close to assessments their children started to disengage in doing these activities/task and had reverse effect.
It’s not about getting the task or activity right- your child could get it wrong but it’s how they went about the task or activity. And academics is not everything, your child could know all their numbers, shapes, colours etc and still not get into the school. In general I found that they wanted a child who’s eager to learn, can follow instructions, is well behaved, has a personality!
Try not to compare your child- as hard as it is focus on your child. Your child will have different strengths and weaknesses not to forget different personality!

hertsmumma · 10/06/2025 09:48

From my experience I would say try and shut everyone else out- people have lots of different opinions one will say they love xxx school another will say they didn’t like it. You know your child the best- you go with ur gut and your opinion!

for me personally I know many friends going through 11+ in NW London and the experience sounds horrific and the amount of stress of parents and pressure on the child led me to decide I wanted an all through school for my child. Again people will have different opinions on this choose what is best for your child but also you as a parent and your lifestyle- are you going to have time to support your child through 11plus? I work an intense job 5 days a week this was an important factor for us.

I’ve read lots on this thread about tutoring and prepping your child. Whilst of course you can do certain activities really best is giving them exposure to different environments and life skills. Don’t send your child to a tutor most of my friends that did go to a well known external tutor did not get the offers they wanted

QuaintLilacHelper · 20/06/2025 15:31

ladyfusion · 22/05/2025 14:42

Both of my children were fortunate to receive offers from Highgate — my eldest is already at the school, and my youngest will be starting at the Pre-Prep this September after going through the 4+ assessment last winter.
As a parent who also supported many families preparing for entry into top North London schools — I wanted to share a few thoughts that might help if your child is sitting the 4+ this year.
Every child is different, and no one-size-fits-all approach works. But here are five tips that many families have found genuinely useful:
1. Build independence early
Encourage your child to manage simple tasks like putting on their coat, washing hands, or tidying up toys. These everyday skills help children feel more secure and capable in a new environment.
2. Prioritise language and communication
The 4+ isn’t just about academic performance — it’s also about listening (can your child sit through the whole story for 15-20 min?), expressing ideas (there will be questions during and after reading the story!), and engaging with others (will your child share a toy, take turns or collaborate when building the longest line out of LEGO DUPLO?). Read together daily, ask open-ended questions, and help your child feel confident in using their voice.
3. Practise calm separations
Children will be asked to go into assessments without their parents. Practising smooth, reassuring goodbyes at nursery can help your child feel safe and prepared when the time comes. If your child will refuse to go inside without you, that might affect your child's assessment in a negative way.
4. Embrace play-based preparation
Activities like puzzles, threading, cutting, colouring, and role play all support the fine motor skills, focus, and imagination that teachers always quietly observe (they always do!).
5. Keep the pressure low
The most helpful thing you can do is protect their sense of joy, curiosity, and confidence. Schools are not looking for perfection — they’re looking for potential and growth mindset. Will your child give up if given a challenging task or will they trying again and again and again?
If you’re just starting out and feeling unsure, I completely understand ❤️ I’m happy to share anything I’ve learned — feel free to reach out. You’ve got this, and so does your little one! 💯🌟

Wow, well done getting both kids in! Was curious if you did all the prep yourself and if there was any games/tools you used that helped??

ladyfusion · 22/06/2025 20:25

QuaintLilacHelper · 20/06/2025 15:31

Wow, well done getting both kids in! Was curious if you did all the prep yourself and if there was any games/tools you used that helped??

Thank you so much! I have to admit, my kids did most of the hard work - kudos to them for not giving up, especially as the preparation took at least a year for each of them.
I prepared them myself, although credit where credit is due—my husband was always there to support the kids with any work when I was busy. Having your partner fully involved and aware of what’s going on is definitely a big help.
To answer your question about games and tools—as a tutor myself, I’ve built up quite a large collection, including:

  1. Books - selected based on those commonly used in top London nurseries focused on 4+ prep.
  2. Educational toys - mostly Montessori-aligned (as I’m Montessori-trained) to teach maths, reading, understanding the world, etc.
  3. Board games - to reinforce learning in maths, reading, and understanding the world.
  4. Puzzles - selected based on those commonly used in top London nurseries focused on 4+ prep.
  5. Worksheets - used sparingly; mainly colouring sheets, mazes, dot-to-dots, colour-by-numbers, and a list of nursery rhymes as I definitely prefer to use real objects whenever I can/it makes sense.
  6. Art & crafts material - to teach kids drawing, colouring, cutting, pasting.
Jaylden · 24/06/2025 19:09

Did anyone work with tutors and recommend anyone? Sounds so early at that age. Thanks

MyTwoDads · 17/07/2025 16:13

Lots of useful feedback here for new 4+ parents.
I was an 4+ assessor until recently, and can agree with most of the things said. It made me chuckle @hertsmumma when you said teachers can spot a tutored child - we usually could lol. We would ask them why they were drawing a flower or a house and they would say "my mum told me I had to" lol and then they would give away other things that made us twig. Not that we would say no to a tutored child at all. It just made me think carefully about my questioning. I worked in an open ended part to our assessment that couldn't be taught but gave us an indication of their imagination and creativity - much more useful than if the could recall colours or shapes.
If you have twins, and you think they would be better together in the assessment room, then ask admissions if that can happen. If you think they'd perform better separately, then just let them know that's what you'd like. I'm sure they wouldn't disagree as long as you let them know before they begin booking the appointment slots in. 😁

KnackeredBunny · 18/07/2025 07:52

MyTwoDads · 17/07/2025 16:13

Lots of useful feedback here for new 4+ parents.
I was an 4+ assessor until recently, and can agree with most of the things said. It made me chuckle @hertsmumma when you said teachers can spot a tutored child - we usually could lol. We would ask them why they were drawing a flower or a house and they would say "my mum told me I had to" lol and then they would give away other things that made us twig. Not that we would say no to a tutored child at all. It just made me think carefully about my questioning. I worked in an open ended part to our assessment that couldn't be taught but gave us an indication of their imagination and creativity - much more useful than if the could recall colours or shapes.
If you have twins, and you think they would be better together in the assessment room, then ask admissions if that can happen. If you think they'd perform better separately, then just let them know that's what you'd like. I'm sure they wouldn't disagree as long as you let them know before they begin booking the appointment slots in. 😁

when you say you were an assessor, does that mean the assessors are external or are they teachers at the actual schools being applied for? If external, would you assess for multiple schools?

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MyTwoDads · 18/07/2025 08:19

@KnackeredBunny hi, no, I was just trying to explain that I was involved in the process. In fact I was on the SLT and one of my roles was to arrange the 4+ assessments from start to finish including making the offers. (I didn't want to sound all high and mighty lol). I only worked at one school, for 12years and evolved the 4+ assessment over that time. I would meet other Heads of PP from other schools and we would discuss the content occasionally (some were rather cagey if they were a local competitor!). Schools generally only use their own staff, on occasion they will use staff that used to work at the school as they would be familiar with the process. This was important for us as we wanted to ensure consistency year on year. I had a team of 4 inc me that would do the assessments each year.

QuaintLilacHelper · 18/07/2025 09:44

Thanks for your thoughts @MyTwoDads - curious if you we’re thinking about how to best prepare your child what would you do?

MyTwoDads · 18/07/2025 09:56

Hi @QuaintLilacHelper it's a good question. I have been on both sides of the fence - my DS is just finishing reception and did the 4+ in autumn before last. I don't really think tutoring is needed, although there are caveats to that such as their nursery/childcare experiences leading up to the 4+. I certainly don't think you need 18months prep like I have seen banded around on the web! 🙄
With my son, we just did gentle bits and bobs as he was growing up, obviously, I knew what to focus on but it wasn't intense at all and really it is all things they should be learning for their age anyway.

With that in mind, I have just started a FB group to share tips and FAQs. Just search 4+assessments - there's only one group!
I am very mindful that we put a lot of pressure on our little ones at this young age and we (teachers) should do what we can to make it as least stressful for them (and you) as possible. Children going for 7+/11+ are mature enough to understand what is going on.

QuaintLilacHelper · 18/07/2025 10:41

Thanks for the reply! Do you mind me asking for the name of the FB group? Will join!