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Daydreamer293 · 18/04/2025 22:33

Hi,

So my son has been offered a place in our 2nd Choice. I didn't look around the school but I put it down to avoid my closest school. My youngest has been offered a space in our 1st Choice nursery but now my son hasn't been offered a place for reception and I can't have them in different places as I don't drive.

I called the council and they said I can change my preferences and ask to be put on different schools waiting lists eventhough the deadline has passed. Has anyone had any experience with this before it seems crazy that you can change options after the deadline, does that not defeat the object of a deadline.

I have appealed but I've heard that they're not often successful, eventhough I am In the catchment for my first choice and it's closer than the school that has been offered.

Can anyone advise on this?
Thanks!

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PatriciaHolm · 18/04/2025 23:11

All they are saying is that you can go on waiting lists for any school, not just ones you originally applied for. The waiting lists are held in order of how you fit the admissions criteria, not time on list, and anyone can go on a waiting list at any time. The deadline is for consideration in the first round, which guarantees you a place somewhere: you may not get a place from a waiting list.

an appeal, if it is Infant class size, will be very very hard to win; even if it isn't it will be difficult and transport/catchment are not ground for appeal.

Annony331 · 18/04/2025 23:53

You are adding new schools and will be dealt with the same as a anyone else on the waiting list. This means you can move up or down and never be offered a place or fall lucky and be offered a place.

As late applications arrive they will also be added to any list. It is based on where you qualify and not first come first served. A late child may jump to first position or be added to the end of a long list. Your nursery child does not need to be in education and I would get the older chilnto into a school first to establish a sibling link for next year. There is no sibling link the other way around.

BoleynMemories13 · 19/04/2025 07:42

The deadline was for first round allocations. Now that has passed and everyone who applied has been allocated something, the rest of the remaining spaces in schools which have them become available for people to apply for, whether this is because they're not happy with what they have been given or because they've moved into the area since the original deadline (or simply because they missed the deadline... believe it or not this happens to people each year).

No object has been defeated as some schools are no longer available as they have no spaces left, due to being oversubscribed in the first round of allocations, hence the need to join a waiting list if you want them. Someone applying now isn't going to bump someone who already has a place out (but they may bump someone on a waiting list for that school down as the waiting lists are not first come first served). This is the fairest system as it allows priority to anyone who moves really close to a school after the original deadline. They may not get in to their local school straight away after moving, if it's oversubscribed, but they'll get offered a place if it comes up ahead of someone who lives the opposite side of town who applied in the first round of allocations and didn't get in. Basically, if you apply late but would have got in based on the schools admissions criteria had you applied first time round, you'll go straight near the top of the waiting list as a priority.

The only way spaces which have already been allocated in the first round become available is is someone rejects it. If a school is oversubscribed it is very rare for someone to reject it because they're not happy, as it's obviously a popular sought after school and they must have applied to have been given a space in the first place. However, people do move away and no longer require the place, or opt for private school instead. Some people's circumstances change, as hour's has. Places at oversubscribed schools do sometimes become available, so it's worth going on a waiting list but I wouldn't pin your hopes on this.

Does that make sense?

You won't win an appeal based on the school you wanted being closer than your allocated one, and causing a logistical problem for you now your other child is due to start nursery there. That's not their problem. Your first choice was just move popular (or has less spaces to offer) than your allocated school, hence your child getting a place at the other school despite your preferred school being closer. More children applied than they had places to offer, and other children who applied met the admissions criteria ahead of your child, that's all. The only way you will win an appeal is if you can prove the admissions criteria was applied wrong and someone got a space ahead of you who shouldn't have, which is very rare.

If a space at your first preference doesn't become available, does the allocated school have a nursery you could try to apply to for your other child, to make life easier? Or at least a nursery or pre-school nearby so you're not going in two different directions?

BangersAndGnash · 19/04/2025 07:48

Put your youngest on the waiting list for the nursery at the school your eldest has been allocated, and keep your eldest in the first choice waiting list where your youngest has a nursery place. Then accept which ever comes up first.

If nothing comes up as September looms call the LA and ask if any schools have a place in both primary and nursery.

The deadline gives everyone a chance to apply for their preferences. Once allocations have been done essentially ‘late applications’ can be made.

Waiting lists and late applications are all held in the order to which they meet the admissions criteria.

Fingers crossed for you.

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