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Child left with poor options reception 2025

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BluntPlumHam · 18/04/2025 16:33

Hi looking for some advice.

We are in the North of the country and in an area with a low birth rate. We were advised by all the schools we visited that you’re more than likely to get your first preference because of the low birth rate and last years admissions criteria’s going beyond the usual limits, I.E going well outside the catchment area.

Our first preference is well within our catchment 10mins walk, second 15 and the third option is not but we applied because they told us that over 40 percent of their intake is from outside of the catchment.

Despite this our DS has not been offered any of his three preferences and instead been given another school which is the closest but not suited to his needs at all.

He has been put on a waitlist for all three schools of preference.

I spoke to admissions and they said it won’t be till next week when the schools data is published that we will know where he is on the lists. She was agreeing with me that it was a low birth rate and doesn’t understand what has happened until the data is published. His nursery are also confused because they’ve never heard of anyone not getting any of their preference especially when sensible options were selected.

i have rejected his offer because the school isn’t right for him, they mix their years and don’t perform well at all. This won’t remove me from the waitlist, they have confirmed.

I am looking for advice, thoughts, anecdotes and anything really because I’m stressed as he doesn’t really have a plan B.

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Zippityjumpingbean · 18/04/2025 17:42

Ok well usually you can get hold of a list of all of the schools in the authority that have spaces. Then it’ll be a case of working out whether you will find a space in a private school (will that be possible in your area? They’re like gold dust in our area)
or looking at the list of spaces available and applying for an option you feel you could live with.
Apart from that, get on the waiting list of as many schools as you can, do the appeal and cross your fingers.
there’s a lot of movement before September so hopefully something will come up.

LIZS · 18/04/2025 17:44

Often when people mention catchment they actually mean the area covering furthest distance offered in previous years. Some Local Authorities have fixed priority admissions areas where those living within it are considered before those living outside it. Faith schools may also use living in a Parish or practising at certain Churches as a criteria ahead of community spaces. Op, which are you thinking applies here?

BluntPlumHam · 18/04/2025 17:45

MonteStory · 18/04/2025 17:36

How do catchments work in your LA? You refer to ‘within our catchment’ but usually catchments belong to schools. You can have schools that cross over, so some houses are in 2 catchments, but basically you either applied for your catchment school or you didn’t. It doesn’t matter whether you perceive a school to be ‘within our catchment’, you can be 100yrds from a school and yet not be in its catchment because lines have to be drawn somewhere. If you’re outside catchment, you may go down the criteria quite a lot as lots of schools have sibling and church attendance, even certain preschool attendance, above distance (ie how far you are from the actual school compared to other applicants out of catchment)

If what you say about birth rates etc is true then I agree it’s very odd but at the same time I think you have some misconceptions about how the systems work. Perhaps if you tell us your LA someone can help?

We called admissions & the schools ages ago before application deadlines to check if our house was in said schools catchment. They said yes.

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MonteStory · 18/04/2025 17:46

BluntPlumHam · 18/04/2025 17:45

We called admissions & the schools ages ago before application deadlines to check if our house was in said schools catchment. They said yes.

Which one? Your first choice?

BluntPlumHam · 18/04/2025 17:50

MonteStory · 18/04/2025 17:46

Which one? Your first choice?

1st and 2nd preference. Both confirmed we were in their catchment. Our first preference is 0.2 miles from our house …

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Newgirls · 18/04/2025 17:51

If you’re that close there must be a mistake

MonteStory · 18/04/2025 17:51

Sorry saw further up you replied to someone else. So you’re in the catchment for 1 and 2, meaning you’re not in the catchment of the one youve been given which is your closest school.

This further convinces you have been given incorrect information about catchments.

in relation to your other updates - previous year in-take data can’t be relevant if you say this year is a low birth year. It is relevant in terms of where they take from but to be honest not getting into 3 choices suggests it’s a HIGH birth year.

MonteStory · 18/04/2025 17:52

BluntPlumHam · 18/04/2025 17:50

1st and 2nd preference. Both confirmed we were in their catchment. Our first preference is 0.2 miles from our house …

But you say the one you’ve been given is your closest? Where on earth do you live?!

myrtleWilson · 18/04/2025 17:53

What is the admission criteria for your 1st and 2nd choices - where does catchment/distance come on the listing and what was the intake numbers?

LIZS · 18/04/2025 17:54

You will need to check the published data to see if schools A and B were oversubscribed by “in catchment” applicants(assuming that was a priority category on the Admissions policy) in which case distance may have been the determining factor. Your letter should explain the outcomes.

LadyLapsang · 18/04/2025 17:55

Have you checked the Published Admission Number for Reception in local schools for September 2025 is the same as that for September 2024. To give an example, if you had 6 local schools and 4 usually admitted two forms of entry (usually one FE = 30 pupils, but there are some exceptions), one small school, which admits 30 and one tiny school which admits 15. If the birth rate and inward migration changes, you could find the tiny school closes, and two of the larger primaries reduce their intake to one FE rather than two to be economically viable. If the PAN changes, or if a nearby school closes or becomes more or less popular, or if a newly built housing estate starts to yield pupils, those that may have received an offer in one year, won’t the next (or vice versa).

CurlewKate · 18/04/2025 17:56

Tell me you haven’t rejected the offer already….?

BluntPlumHam · 18/04/2025 17:57

MonteStory · 18/04/2025 17:51

Sorry saw further up you replied to someone else. So you’re in the catchment for 1 and 2, meaning you’re not in the catchment of the one youve been given which is your closest school.

This further convinces you have been given incorrect information about catchments.

in relation to your other updates - previous year in-take data can’t be relevant if you say this year is a low birth year. It is relevant in terms of where they take from but to be honest not getting into 3 choices suggests it’s a HIGH birth year.

No we are also in the catchment in the one offered it’s basically 0.2 miles in the other direction.

p1 0.2
p2 0.9
p3 just over a mile but, not in catchment for sure however mentioned just rational for that.
offered place 0.2

No they harped on and on. We visiting between 5/6 schools because were told low birth rate and apply for what you really want because you will most likely get it. We were told we were in a fantastic positon due to declining birth rates.

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MonteStory · 18/04/2025 18:04

BluntPlumHam · 18/04/2025 17:57

No we are also in the catchment in the one offered it’s basically 0.2 miles in the other direction.

p1 0.2
p2 0.9
p3 just over a mile but, not in catchment for sure however mentioned just rational for that.
offered place 0.2

No they harped on and on. We visiting between 5/6 schools because were told low birth rate and apply for what you really want because you will most likely get it. We were told we were in a fantastic positon due to declining birth rates.

You cannot possibly be in 3 primary catchements.

MonteStory · 18/04/2025 18:05

And as a previous poster has explained well, declining birth rates puts your in a terrible position as schools start changing their admission number. They cannot afford to have year after year of half full year groups.

downhere · 18/04/2025 18:06

MonteStory · 18/04/2025 18:04

You cannot possibly be in 3 primary catchements.

My guess is OP means usually they would be admitted from the distance they live rather than a defined catchment.

Newgirls · 18/04/2025 18:11

So you got your nearest school? Just not the one you want?

IVFmumoftwo · 18/04/2025 18:17

It might be there were lots of siblings who needed places and they take priority.

BluntPlumHam · 18/04/2025 18:19

MonteStory · 18/04/2025 18:04

You cannot possibly be in 3 primary catchements.

We are fortunate to be living in an area with lots of primary schools nearby and in the catchment of three.

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BluntPlumHam · 18/04/2025 18:24

IVFmumoftwo · 18/04/2025 18:17

It might be there were lots of siblings who needed places and they take priority.

Yes so it’s EHCPs, siblings and then catchment. It’s just at odds with low birth rates and previous years trend .

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PanelChair · 18/04/2025 18:47

This is a very unusual situation if (as you suggest) schools have fixed catchment areas - as opposed to the distance at which the last place was offered, which can fluctuate from year to year - and they overlap so much that one address can be in three catchments.

You mention that this is a low birth rate year. When you’re checking that your application has been processed correctly (correct category, correct address, correct home/school distance etc) it might be useful to check whether any of the schools you applied for have reduced their published admission number (PAN) this year. Many admissions authorities, including my own, are dealing with falling school rolls by taking spare capacity out of the system, either by closing schools or reducing PANs.

RandomMess · 18/04/2025 18:49

Do you mean distance of places offered in previous years as that is not “catchment”.

Catchment means if you live within a predefined catchment area you are guaranteed a place at the school. Some (only a few) work on this basis.

BrandNewHeretic · 18/04/2025 18:51

I live in the catchment area of 6 different primary schools, so it is definitely possible op is in the catchment of 3

TeenToTwenties · 18/04/2025 18:51

Catchment in day to day parlance means
EITHER
. defined priority admission area, which can be any shape
OR
. a circle or radius that varies each year showing last distance offered, ie the area that the school draws its children from.

The OP does need to clarify which they mean.

mrssunshinexxx · 18/04/2025 18:54

Rejecting it is fine if you’re prepared to go private to meet his needs x

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