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Y1 - are children assigned to a specific table or is the mix random?

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Criteria16 · 04/01/2025 23:43

Not sure I am explaining myself properly. My DS is doing well in school and the last report was all "working at expected standard", which doesn't give me much info into specific areas (and the teacher seemed very vague).
I know this year they do less carpet time and work more at shared desks. My DS says he's sharing it with another 4 children, always the same ones. In your experience would it be a random selection of children per table, mixed abilities or same abilities?

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BeachHutsAndDeckchairs · 05/01/2025 00:08

Depends on the mix of students in the class and how well they get on/don't get on. Sometimes it's easier to have similar ability children together if you're working on something specific to them and other times it's easier to have them in places where they're not going to constantly be chatting to their neighbours.

BeachHutsAndDeckchairs · 05/01/2025 00:10

And when they're assigned a place, it's their place until the teacher rethinks the seating plan for whatever reason.

cariadlet · 05/01/2025 01:30

Different teachers prefer different seating arrangements so if you're worried then ask.

I mainly have children sitting in mixed ability pairs but might move them around if I want myself or the TA to work with a particular group of children who are of a similar ability.

RatRatPig · 05/01/2025 01:32

In our local school tables are arranged by ability from reception 🫤

Annony331 · 05/01/2025 02:50

Depends on cohort. Some children need to be closer to teacher, on a quieter table, need a sensible partner to model good behaviour, need separating from others, need challenge, don't need challenge, need support, less distraction, be by an exit, arrange lefties and righties for space. Need TA support, can work independently. Need visual contact, have medical needs to throw into mix. are having regular interventions and
you need to reduce impact of moving around the classroom.
That is without ability sets. We do ability groups for maths and English in the morning and less structured groups in the afternoons.

lavenderlou · 05/01/2025 03:03

Totally depends on how the teacher wants it and if the school has a policy. Ability tables are generally not currently considered best practice. If there were ability groups it would be unusual for the children to remain on exactly the same groups for all subjects I teach KS1 and children have their own fixed seat in mixed ability groups but I will move children around depending on what we are doing so I can support as needed. Eg I will move children together who need more help in a writing session just for that lesson.

BoleynMemories13 · 05/01/2025 08:41

It totally depends on the school/teacher and how they choose to organise the classroom/lessons. Strangers on the internet can not answer this question for you, it's way too specific to your son's school. Not all Year 1 classrooms will be run the same way.

If it was a end of term report I wouldn't expect it to be detailed. Teachers have enough to do and many schools don't do termly reports. Most schools will give you a detailed report at the end of the year, and usually 2x parents evenings where you'll be able to ask questions.

The expectations for each year are freely available online if you wish to read up on more. Working at expected standard is good. Does it really matter where he sits in the classroom or the ability of the other children on his table?

BendingSpoons · 05/01/2025 08:45

For my kids it seems to be a mixture. Loosely ability based but also considering who works well together. I also suspect the children who find it harder to attend were spread out between tables, which makes sense as sitting them all together wouldn't help anyone!

LostMyLanyard · 05/01/2025 09:54

I teach in Year 3 this year, but have taught all primary year groups over my 31 year career.

Table groups can be a huge mix of things, and are either teacher or school dependent. Some schools have a particular layout that all classes have to abide by (I once taught in a school where we all had to have the 'double horseshoe' layout, which I hated 😂). Mostly though, teachers can choose what works best for them and their current cohort.

This year, I have one table where my supported children sit together (currently a table of 3 but in previous cohorts has been 4/6 etc). The rest are in small groups of mixed ability 4s. This is because my class are VERY chatty so big tables are a nightmare!

Last year, I had one supported table of 6 and 4 more mixed ability tables of 6. They were a much more settled class so the bigger tables worked well.

What is it that you are concerned about?

Mintearo7 · 05/01/2025 11:27

Our school said they don’t put kids in ‘sets’ when we looked around but they definitely do group them with similar children. But it’s all very cryptic. It’s not worth my time trying to work out a system they are trying to hide. I did find the school report at the end of yr1 more in depth than reception- working towards, expected, exceeding in about 30 areas. If you’re after more info on his ability I would ask for an example report or grill the teacher some more.

elliejjtiny · 05/01/2025 17:15

It really depends on the class and on the school. I do find reports are very vague at this age and teachers say things like expected standard or making progress when you ask. It took some getting used to as the HV assessments would say 2 months ahead in this area, 18 months behind in that area etc and even plot it all in a graph for me.

My youngest is in year 6 now but in his class they tend to sit the children based on behaviour rather than ability. My ds is currently say on his own next to the teacher but near some very well behaved children because he is likely to copy their behaviour and do his work. He was sat in the same place but next to a bit who got disregulated a lot and it was a disaster because they would upset each other and neither of them would get anything done.

User860131 · 05/01/2025 22:19

There's really no way of knowing. My dd was in Y1 last year and they were on ability-based tables. This year in Y2 it's not at all ability based. The teachers have been very transparent about this in both years but obviously haven't let the kids know at all. What's most important is that your kid feels safe and happy wherever they're being seated really.

Criteria16 · 06/01/2025 11:54

Thank you all. I have no specific concerns, or desire for my son to be put at another table as I believe there are benefits in all systems.
The teacher said he's working at expected standards, but I then found out before the holidays that a lot of his classmates have progressed more quickly on book bands for instance and, while I understand the 'range' of expected standards at his age are wide, I would have expected the teacher to mention he's on the lower end of it. As a result we have focused on his reading in the past few weeks at home, and I have seen a big improvement.
Hence my curiosity regarding tables. I am absolutely fine for him to be on a mixed ability table, need-more-support table, random table etc as long as I know what that means for him :).

From your lovely answers I now guess he's sharing the table with quite well behaved children, away from his two trouble maker friends!

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BoleynMemories13 · 05/01/2025 08:41

It totally depends on the school/teacher and how they choose to organise the classroom/lessons. Strangers on the internet can not answer this question for you, it's way too specific to your son's school. Not all Year 1 classrooms will be run the same way.

If it was a end of term report I wouldn't expect it to be detailed. Teachers have enough to do and many schools don't do termly reports. Most schools will give you a detailed report at the end of the year, and usually 2x parents evenings where you'll be able to ask questions.

The expectations for each year are freely available online if you wish to read up on more. Working at expected standard is good. Does it really matter where he sits in the classroom or the ability of the other children on his table?

Yes, it really does. What does "expected" mean? What is this "good"?

tellmesomethingtrue · 24/02/2025 00:36

Why does this even matter? Aren't they just 5 or 6?

Jimmyspiano · 25/02/2025 09:59

When my now 15 year old was in year 1 they were very obviously sat in ability groups. The very bright, often autumn born children sat on hexagon table, the children who were doing well sat on pentagon etc. My son who has LD was on circle table. I hope things have changed a bit since then. However, I expect the children in year 1 still know which book band everyone is on, who is brilliant at maths and who needs extra help.

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