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Help me understand school house points

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Eurydice84 · 11/06/2024 18:21

DD (5) is in reception. At all our parents evenings her teacher seemed really pleased both with academic results and behaviour. We read a lot in the evening and log this into her reading journal. Yet she has very few house points compared to many, including kids who are known to be quite disruptive/aggressive. Help me understand - the UK school system is new to me and I am not sure I get the whole house point thing!

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Precipice · 11/06/2024 18:25

Are there any benefits to particular pupils getting more points? Rewards, I mean?

In most primary schools, where there are points, they mean absolutely nothing. The disruptive kids got a point for when they were not being disruptive, with the teacher hoping this would serve as a motivator to continue being quiet and polite. Probably this didn't work miracles. Your DD didn't get one in the same situation, because not being disruptive and not being aggressive is the norm for her.

Eurydice84 · 11/06/2024 18:34

Precipice · 11/06/2024 18:25

Are there any benefits to particular pupils getting more points? Rewards, I mean?

In most primary schools, where there are points, they mean absolutely nothing. The disruptive kids got a point for when they were not being disruptive, with the teacher hoping this would serve as a motivator to continue being quiet and polite. Probably this didn't work miracles. Your DD didn't get one in the same situation, because not being disruptive and not being aggressive is the norm for her.

That's what I thought @Precipice. It's a rather confusing system for pupils - there are not rewards as such, although students with the highest n of points get a mention in the newsletter, and the house with most points in the term gets non-uniform day perks etc

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twentysevendresses · 11/06/2024 18:59

Precipice · 11/06/2024 18:25

Are there any benefits to particular pupils getting more points? Rewards, I mean?

In most primary schools, where there are points, they mean absolutely nothing. The disruptive kids got a point for when they were not being disruptive, with the teacher hoping this would serve as a motivator to continue being quiet and polite. Probably this didn't work miracles. Your DD didn't get one in the same situation, because not being disruptive and not being aggressive is the norm for her.

I think this is honestly a myth...or at the very least, a rare occurrence (which inexperienced staff might try when they are worn down by the constant disruption of certain students!)

I've taught for 30 years so have a lot of experience...and I promise you that most teachers are not handing out housepoints like sweets to the 'disruptive' children!!

I only EVER give housepoints for excellent work, behaviour, kindness etc. Every point earned is deserved.

As a side note...they are not given (or shouldn't be!) for 'expected behaviour' either. Just 'following the rules' isn't a reason to hand one out...they are earned by going above and beyond 'expected'. I do know that some adults in school hand them out for 'good manners' simply when a child says please or thank you, or holds a door open, but to be honest, these are minimal expectations so I wouldn't. Perhaps I'm just mean 🤣

user09876543 · 11/06/2024 19:02

Nobody can tell you unless their child is at the same school. Every school is different.

AnnaCBi · 11/06/2024 19:04

It is a common problem that the children that struggle with behaviour end up with the most points. They are rewarded for what is expected behaviour for the other kids. The children who are very academic and very well behaved are held to a higher standard - they’d never get a merit or house point for putting their hand up, but a kid that always shouts out would.

LemonCitron · 11/06/2024 19:08

It's honestly not worth worrying about too much OP. Some kids do seem to get more than others and it's not obvious why. My DC3 always gets more than DC1 or DC2, I wouldn't say he's any better than them but he's not naughty and disruptive either. It doesn't seem to matter so I've given up trying to figure it out!

Choccybuttonsandprosecco · 11/06/2024 19:39

It’ll be the profile of the teacher and sometimes the school in terms of what they give them for (I mean as I write that, what else could it be lol!).
I’m always told my daughter is a model pupil, always tries her best, kind and helpful but she’s always down the bottom of the house points; the last to get the badges. This is because the emphasis is still on achievement despite them saying it’s effort, and she’s not going to get many for that however hard she tries. End of term she gets more for “kindness” to try to bump her up but it’s embarrassing really.

Pianochairs · 11/06/2024 20:46

I think the disruptive child getting lots of points for not being disruptive is something of a parent fallacy. Often these children do interventions because they are academically behind. TAs are frequently generous with points for various reasons but partly because children are often keen to please in a small group and partly because they might need a bit more bargaining power than a teacher. Having worked in several different schools, it's always been interventions that bump up some children's points.

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