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Alternative ranking primaries London (girls or coed)

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Londonbabyland · 09/05/2024 19:13

Public schools come across very differently demographically at different academic targets e.g top school with mostly professionals parents is very diverse and ranks top in academics, A-list celeb - less diverse, lower results; peers and gentry - less focus on academia; some establishments are particularly popular among oligarchy, global elite, old money etc. as parents look for different fit/class/prestige (or the need for its absence)/social network/diversity (or absence) the views/feedback would be much appreciated.

Some of the schools in primary research among others...
NLCS
Francis Holland
Godolphyn&Latimer
Falkner House
Habs
City of London Girls

Coed
Highgate
Hill House

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jonnyhatesjazzzzz · 09/05/2024 22:59

Not quite sure what you're after but Godolphin and Latymer doesn't have a junior section if that's what you're looking at.

Mummytwotwo · 10/05/2024 11:08

City is coed in primary and entry at 7+

how old is your DD?

parietal · 10/05/2024 11:29

your post is hard to read and it is not at all clear what you actually want to know. which of the various criteria matters to you? academic success or social group or supportive school or sporty or something else? Tell us which and people can then suggest a ranking on that factor.

BusySwan · 10/05/2024 11:37

Looking at your list OP, (which seems focused on central London Preps and Junior depts that are seen as 'top'.

For Girls

Bute House (Prep) needs to be on the list.

Glendower needs to be on the list for girls, as does Pembridge, Ken Prep too really.

Co-ed
Latymer Prep is very highly ranked

Thomas's schools are popular .

Eaton House , but not exactly central in Clapham.

Once WUS goes co-ed, they need to be on any top co-ed prep list also.

I think all private schools in London are diverse, racially and culturally (not financially! full bursary kids make up a very tiny minority in any school, the minority will be on any bursary help at all. The typical bursary will be very middle class households getting 10 to 50% help, )

All London schools are diverse with working class parents working 3 jobs to cover fees to A list celeb parents and some Aristo's, and everything in between.

I think the oligarchy, global elite tend to flock to central London schools only then off to Swiss or boarding school somewhere. They seem much less anxious about academic schools compared to say professional middle class parents , they can afford to be I guess.

I've found old money tends to be outside of London , in sleepy village schools then boarding.

Most parents at London private schools are typically professional, working long hours.

LesmisPhantom · 10/05/2024 11:39

NLCS and Habs are not central

CurlsnSunshinetime4tea · 11/05/2024 06:24

Hill House International is considered cost effective/cheaper than some of the others.

LadyLapsang · 11/05/2024 14:25

I think (hope) most parents chose schools for their children based on educational and logistical reasons, rather than for reasons of perceived social mobility (for them).

LimeFrogs · 11/05/2024 14:51

Are you asking what the 'top'/'most popular' London prep schools are and for what reasons?

Junior departments:
Westminster under (boys) - highly academic, going co ed, professional parents
St Paul's Juniors (boys) - as above but not going co ed, a tiny bit more liberal
Kings Wimbledon (boys) - academic
City (coed) - academic, city worker children mainly
NLCS (girls) - academic, more N London, professional parents
Harrodian (coed) - become v popular with the celeb/wealthy crowd in barnes area

Prep only
Sussex House (boys) feeds top boarding public schools
Wetherby (boys) - academic, pre prep hot houses for 7+ selectives
Eaton House (boys in Belgravia but girls branch in Clapham) - academic, professional parents, Belgravia feeds 7+ entry

Girls is more mixed-
Bute House (girls) - top academic, high status as it sends so many to SPGS, less celebs than other girls schools, lots of professional parents
Pembridge (girls) - celebs and mega wealth mainly, decent academics
Glendower- as above
Falkner House - more academic, old school style, more similar parents to Bute I'd say, boys department more recently opened
Kensington Prep- academic, modern feel, Fulham/local

Co-ed popular-
Garden House - very fancy, mega wealth
Hill House- used to be the international school but now all london preps are highly diverse, cheaper fees
Thomas's brand - royal connection boosted them
Knightsbridge- very celeb/wealthy

There are many others but these are the ones which come to mind

Londonbabyland · 20/05/2024 21:10

@LadyLapsang or where they fit both culturally and socially. Cultures differ vastly, so do attitudes. Diversity in public North London school during open day was 4:3:1:1 (brown, asian, white, black) predominantly professionals , it was predominantly white sahm in a Kensington public, sports car show during pick ups in Chelsea in another. So of course they are all ambitious schools though it's natural they'll have their ethos and attract particular type of parent mostly (which is what the question related to). That was my impression recently and experience having gone to public school in Central London some years back.

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Tiredmumofthreekids · 21/05/2024 11:24

Londonbabyland · 20/05/2024 21:10

@LadyLapsang or where they fit both culturally and socially. Cultures differ vastly, so do attitudes. Diversity in public North London school during open day was 4:3:1:1 (brown, asian, white, black) predominantly professionals , it was predominantly white sahm in a Kensington public, sports car show during pick ups in Chelsea in another. So of course they are all ambitious schools though it's natural they'll have their ethos and attract particular type of parent mostly (which is what the question related to). That was my impression recently and experience having gone to public school in Central London some years back.

You have rather a random mix of schools in your initial post, OP.

From my experience (3 kids at 3 different private schools) the schools in London are getting incredibly socially and ethically diverse, particularly the selective ones. While you may see a certain ethnic dominance at an open day in A school, the particular class your child may get in may have a completely different makeup in terms of ethnicities/social class. One of my DC is at a schools that is generally perceived as more white according to Mumsnet's posts has 80% non-white children (Indian/Chinese/ mixed White and Asian/ Black/Turkish etc.) in a class with the majority of parents being from professional middle class background (no super-wealthy families I know of).

Generally, except for a small minority of non-selective preps in central London (around Chelsea/Kensington) where they get a higher proportion of "foreigners on visas/oligarchs/unexplained wealth" type of crowd due to the location, you will get a pretty decent mix in most of the private schools.

patagoniamum · 21/05/2024 12:19

I agree with @Tiredmumofthreekids,

However we did go to the Offers day for a very selective north London girls school on OP’s list and a very large majority of parents (I would say around around 60-70%) were of Asian (South Asian) descent, with a few whites, orientals and blacks. When we toured the school, the class makeup was roughly the same. This is also due to the location. Most of the parents at the offers day were working professionals - didn’t see anyone with excessive bling unlike during the open days.

Tiredmumofthreekids · 21/05/2024 12:37

patagoniamum · 21/05/2024 12:19

I agree with @Tiredmumofthreekids,

However we did go to the Offers day for a very selective north London girls school on OP’s list and a very large majority of parents (I would say around around 60-70%) were of Asian (South Asian) descent, with a few whites, orientals and blacks. When we toured the school, the class makeup was roughly the same. This is also due to the location. Most of the parents at the offers day were working professionals - didn’t see anyone with excessive bling unlike during the open days.

Its true some schools may have a higher proportion of specific ethnic groups due to location, also there can be a significant difference between Junior and Senior schools of the same school. Senior departments of schools tend to have more variety in terms of ethnicities/ social classes etc. For example in City Junior at least 50% of their Y3 and Y4 classes (or even more) are Asian (a lot of Chinese families) while CLCG and City Boys tend to be more mixed. Similarly, Habs Junior tends to be more Asian due to location, though they try to be more ethnically mixed with their new prep prep 4+ and Junior 7+ intakes and their reception/Y1 and new Y3 classes are getting more mixed than they used to be. Habs Senior again is even more mixed.

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