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Reception experience / anxiety : move schools?

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whatevershallwedooo · 14/04/2024 07:26

Hoping getting this out in writing help and need the opinion of others too as I’m going round in circles. It’s going to be a long one as I need to get it all down.

dd in reception. December birthday, bright + able

currently in 2 form entry school. 60 kids in reception. 50% more boys than girls : relevant as my dd is textbook ‘girl’ if you were going to label her personality. Plays with girls more, enjoys her learning, not rough and tumble at all - always upside down doing cartwheels handstands, enjoys crafts, by her own admission finds the boys too loud and chaotic etc.

we chose a ‘bigger’ school for her to have a bigger pool of potential friends. It hasn’t worked out that way unfortunately and she actually only has a pool for approx 10 girls in her class. She is slightly off beat and while she loves to make friends she just gels better with some (just like adults I guess?) and unfortunately, as yet she just has not found her people in school. I know their personalities are just emerging but others seem to be grouped off in budding friendships.

school overall, has potential but is nothing special in terms of the offering - local to us to we can walk which I do like. Quite ‘cold’ feeling now I realise, not very nurturing. New head who might make it better but not sure she will stick it out. My DD is ‘doing well’ so doesn’t get any time with teachers, only read to her TA twice last term.

her younger brother is due to start this September. He is late summer born.

DD is showing huge signs of anxiety, and is aware she is struggling to make friends in her school setting. She makes friends well in other settings (dance class, swimming club, random kids at soft play etc family friends etc), I don’t suspect any neurodiversity. just think it’s bad luck with the pool. But the anxiety is worrying me. Picking her fingers and skin until they bleed when ‘nervous’ telling me school is too busy/noisy etc. often says she spends a lot of energy ‘looking for a friend’ is spending time with those kids who have 1:1s and I suspect this is because they have an adult she can talk to.
but despite this she says she does not want to move school. I have said just in conversation that there are options, nothing has to be forever and perhaps we could have a look - nothing heavy has been suggested to her. Is that resistance just fear of change from a 5 year old?? Should we just present it as a done deal?

there is a a small (mixed class) school about 12 min drive away which is polar opposite. By chance, High ratio of girls in the year she would go into. Church school (we’re not religious but can appreciate the values) very cosy feeling. Lots of whole school activities. But v small. Planned intake of 15 with stand alone reception and then 1/2 3/4 5/6

is it a no brainer to try and get them both in there? Her as an in year transfer, DS as a late change to the application? It might not even come off as no idea if they wound have specs in the next intake for him. Or do we persevere where we are? Afterall I don’t know a new school would solve anything (but maybe it would)

Im gutted I feel like I’ve absolutely ballsed everything up and she’s going to be upset at moving and it may not even work out as have to consider getting 2 spaces. But I feel like we are going to lose her sunny nature to the anxiety that school + not being able to settle with friends may bring.

what would you do?

anything to help her anxiety if we don’t move her (and even if we do)? I don’t know where to go with it beside just love her as much as we do, giving her time, attention, space.. she really does have a caring loving home. We would do anything for these kids. Would child play or art therapy be useful for an increasingly anxious child?

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Ionacat · 18/04/2024 13:43

DD2 didn’t really have any special friends in reception. Plenty of people to play with and talk to but no one in particular was a friend. Now in year 2 that seems to have settled into a group of 3 who are also happy to include others but the three are the main ones if you see what I mean.

However if I’m being honest, it does sound like she is struggling with social skills, rather than not finding her tribe. Making friends in an activity which is supervised by an adult or in smaller ratios, or in an environment where you are there to give reassurance and confidence even if she doesn’t appear to need it, is very different to being in a class and navigating social relationships on her own. Reception is hard - it’s a bigger noisier environment less adult supervision. Ultimately she needs to learn to connect with her own peer group and I think I’d be concerned in a mixed year class that she’d gravitate the older ones and you’d be pushing the problem further down the line as she’d appear to be fine. Or it might be that she just hasn’t found her tribe and needs more time in a quieter environment? But I don’t think you’ll know which until you talk at length to the school.

I would suggest arrange a meeting with her teacher (face to face) and find out what support is available. It sounds like she could do with some ELSA support if the school offer it to support with the anxiety or if they have older students who help get games going at lunch or break. I would see what the school can put in place if you haven’t tried already and then if that doesn’t work then move her.

Aknifewith16blades · 18/04/2024 16:24

She sounds like a wonderful girl OP.

Very gently, you say you don't suspect ND, but some of these issues sound similar to issues some girls with a ND face. Being more comfortable speaking with adults that peers for example, school being too busy/ noisy. The anxiety.

It might be something to consider further. Apologies if that is an unwelcome suggestion. Your care and attention here really stand out, and she is lucky to have you in her corner.

whatevershallwedooo · 18/04/2024 18:20

@Aknifewith16blades not unwelcome. maybe a reality check.. it would make perfect sense that she masks and this hasn’t been spotted (admitted?) as such by anyone- myself included. Perhaps I will explore for her.

thanks for your kind words. I really want to help her feel like herself again

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Toothtastic · 18/04/2024 18:26

Very gently, you say you don't suspect ND, but some of these issues sound similar to issues some girls with a ND face. Being more comfortable speaking with adults that peers for example, school being too busy/ noisy. The anxiety. It might be something to consider further.

This.

CherryMaple · 18/04/2024 18:38

Is there any possibility you could reduce the number of days she is in after school childcare? If she’s struggling during school hours, that sounds like a very long day in a setting where she is unhappy.

Play dates are a really good way to build friendships, but harder to do this when she’s in after school club for so many afternoons. Is she getting enough down time with all the extra curricular activities you mention?

Can school offer access to play therapy?

RandomMess · 18/04/2024 21:18

I read this when you first posted and I have to say I really did think autism, she reminds me of my eldest diagnosed in her 20s.

whatevershallwedooo · 18/04/2024 21:37

Oh god I’ve totally missed this haven’t I.

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Lindtnotlint · 18/04/2024 21:51

Agree with those saying this might be a low level ND and/or a moment-in-time-capabilities issue rather than an issue with “tribe”. It doesn’t have to be a big thing - and it could be something that will be easier later. My daughter was like this in reception (though less anxious about it) and still doesn’t have many close friends now but is very mature, polite and no actually diagnosable needs yet….

on this basis I think moving is a bit risky. I think a previous poster made a very good point about being in a class with her brother - him being “more popular’ could be really quite hard.

I would talk to school seriously and ask for some practical support for her. I would also look and see who looks plausible as a friend or friends and pursue with some well organised play dates.

also important to be really positive - it’s great she has such a good network outside school and any help you can do in not having her see lack of good mates in school as a “problem” will really help.

Newuser75 · 18/04/2024 21:59

If she is ND then the smaller school may suit her better, less busy, less noise, more individual attention.

Either way she doesn't seem like she is coping really well currently so it may still be worth considering.

We had similar with our eldest in reception. He is autistic among other things. We moved him schools and he thrived. Still not sure what it was about the first school that didn't suit him.

If she is autistic then please don't feel guilty (I know it's easier said than done!). Kids can mask ridiculously well and she is still so young there is plenty of time to get support in place if needed.

It's not easy to spot it, especially when it's your eldest as you have no frame of reference. I know for sure if we had had our youngest child first we would have spotted differences in our eldest sooner!

She may not even turn out to be autistic.

DuskyEvenings · 18/04/2024 22:10

Sounds like my eldest. About to do her final autism assessment. Bright, prefers talking to adults, struggled with friendships, feels wrong but can't articulate why. We moved her to a very small school and it was the making of her. (Until high school where it all fell apart and the autism traits became apparent).

whatevershallwedooo · 18/04/2024 23:26

@DuskyEvenings im sorry to hear that- it must be so hard to witness ongoing struggles

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DuskyEvenings · 19/04/2024 05:53

@whatevershallwedooo the last 3.5 years have been incredibly hard. My only advice is small schools. The smallest you can find for secondary.

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