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How do I know if the situation is so bad my child should move school?

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Goldfishonabike · 12/03/2024 12:49

DD is in year 3 (for context she’s 9, they start school here later) in an international school in the European country we live in. She’s being taught in English. Our home languages are the native language (my native language) and English (her dad’s language). She was born in the Uk and we moved here four years ago. She’s fluent in both languages.

She hasn’t really ever been very happy at school. Initially I attributed this to staring school during covid, but as the years have gone and she’s still generally not that happy I’m beginning to really worry. She’s just very up and down. Last year she often refused to go to school in the mornings (she always went in the end) and the school was being helpful, they had a lovely teacher. This year they have a very strict teacher that none of the kids like and who has been completely unhelpful to her, dismissive of any issues we raised and had damaged her self confidence. she doesn’t have many friends, very few play dates and quite lonely.

If it was up to me, I’d just move her to a local a local school so she could start learning in the local language and get more local friends. This would help her further education opportunities in this country too, and we are likely to stay here. The issue is that she herself doesn’t want t change school. She says she likes her school overall just not this years teacher, and she says she thinks she has friends and she’s happy in her class. So this is what she says. But she is rarely invited for playdates, is often grumpy and down and has low self confidence. So to me, it seems that her school environment is affecting her negatively. She didn’t have any issues in pre-school. I’m unhappy with the school’s approach to many things, it’s very cold and competitive and not collaborative to parents imo. However, I keep wondering if I’m making the wrong conclusions - if she doesn’t want to change schools (and I asked her many times, last time when a spot opened up at a good private school nearby where she’s on the waitlist, but she refused to even visit the school), then maybe she is ok there and I’m just being too worried? But surely a nine year old shouldn’t be down a lot of the time and should have friends? I also feel like maybe she just doesn’t want to move because she’s scared of change and she has no reference frame that school can be any different. But then again, if a kid is truly unhappy at school, wouldn’t they be open to change schools themselves?

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Pr1mr0se · 12/03/2024 15:37

Ultimately the school your child goes to is your decision. At nine years old I don't think it is reasonable to assume your child will know what she wants with regards to a school preference.

If you're unhappy with how the school are dealing with your concerns then you should move her, especially if the local school will help build her friendship group and knowledge of the local language.

Does she have friends at the local school she would move to (if you moved her) so that she would already have a group of friends before she started? It would be helpful to meet up with some of the parents before she started or have the opportunity for a social / playdates with one or two of them so that your daughter has familiar faces in her class for when she starts.

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 12/03/2024 15:40

Can't you take her for a look around another school? So she can start to picture what it would be like. At the moment it's just a big unknown for her.

Octavia64 · 12/03/2024 15:42

Children very rarely want to change school. They are often frightened of the unknown and are very worried about walking into a completely new environment.

If the situation is really bad they will often not want to go to school - but also not want to try a new one.

You need to make the decision.

TheFancyPoet · 12/03/2024 15:42

To be honest, unless she school refuses, I would respect her own choice. 9 years old is not too young

TheFancyPoet · 12/03/2024 15:44

I went to a school which I never wanted to go to. It changed my whole life in ways which created situational mutism for me on my first year of secondary - two schools hundreds of miles away from where my parents were.

AmaryllisChorus · 12/03/2024 15:46

Take her to visit some other schools. Encourage friendships with neighbourhood children and outside clubs (the equivalent of Brownies or drama or dance or sport maybe?) Show her there are other schools with friendly children.

But to give her a fighting chance of making friends at a local school, she needs to be fluent in the local language. Is she?

Octavia64 · 12/03/2024 15:55

I think a bigger issue might be the language.

If you are in the country long term and are planning for her to access further education in that country I would be seriously considering moving her so that she is learning in that language at least from secondary,

What are the natural school changing points in your system?

It can be very difficult to access education in a language you have not been taught in just because while you may be fluent in terms of speaking everyday, academic language is often quite different.

What extra curriculars is she doing that would help with both friends and language? Brownies, ballet, music etc?

Goldfishonabike · 20/03/2024 14:53

thanks for all your responses and sorry for disappearing!

she is completely fluent in the lcoal
language, it’s my native language and what I mainly speak to her in. She is truly bilingual, expect for she can’t spell in the local language. She can read no problem.

she does extracurriculars in loco clubs and is now becoming to make friends w local
kids that way.

the challenge is that the local school in our catchment area is pretty bad. So it’s not a great alternative. She’s need a place in a private school which I’m not sure we can afford, but we could try (note to say private schools here are hugely subsidized so not at all as expensive as UK private schools, but our financial situation is unstable due to DH being in an insecure industry and currently unemployed, and this school is free), she was offered a spot in one where she was on waitlist last year but refused to even visit.

I think next time she’s offered a spot in one of the schools where we are on waitlist, I will say to her she HAS to visit. I won’t say she HAS to take the spot, but she has to at least visit.

it’s so hard to see her so down.

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Goldfishonabike · 20/03/2024 14:54

Haha should say local clubs not loco!

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Goldfishonabike · 20/03/2024 14:55

She recently said to me “you’re trying to ship me off from this school but I don’t want to!” So it’s just hard. Agree kids that age have no reference frame, that school is all she has tried so unless things were extremely bad, likely she’d be against moving.

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