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Cheating at SATS and SEN

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Newshoes10 · 27/02/2024 21:40

When my daughter took her Sat’s several years ago she told me a teacher was sitting with her telling her the answers. I took this up with the Head at the time who totally dismissed my allegations. 6 years later I identified she may be dyslexic, during testing they highlighted she had a 'reader' during her Sat’s. I am so annoyed that school didn't tell me she had a reader, if I had known or they had passed this on to secondary school she would have had a diagnosis and support in place for the past 6 years ago for dyslexia. Am I being unreasonable? Why are schools only interested in results and not the future of the children? How can schools be allowed to put in place support during sats which is not only not normal for the child but parents are not aware?

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OggyBunsen · 27/02/2024 21:44

Having a reader is not cheating. There is a process to go through and there are spot checks. Informing parents is good practice but not required.

Having a reader for SATs would not lead to a diagnosis for dyslexia.

Results can make or break a school - it's what they are judged by. Some schools go way over the top with SATs revision, for sure.

Newshoes10 · 27/02/2024 21:51

Sorry I didn’t explain. The 'reader' was telling her the answers.

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Soapboxqueen · 27/02/2024 22:01

If you questioned the headteacher at the time, who did she say the teacher was?

Did she explain that this teacher was a reader for your daughter?

Where did the people doing the dyslexia testing get the information about her having a reader?

PoppingCandles · 27/02/2024 22:27

Generally i think its good schools have motivation to push dc for the sats as they certainly leave at a higher level than with no tests.
However using this data to predict gcse results is pretty crazy

my dc school did well at sats especially maths this year.
And the secondary used that to set them.
I know of 2 dc already from our school who have gone from set 2 to 3.
Another kid has gone from set 1 to 2 from a different school.

It seems perhaps that some kids were not naturally picking things up quickly and all the repetition of the sats with no new work from at least xmas really helped them.
(Although i have to say i did suspect some cheating by the school as a few dc did better than i expected by a lot...)
But maybe that is still the practise?
Another girl went into top set at the other secondary and straight away found it too hard but they wont move down sets.

And my dc who had exceeded english from reception only scraped the exceeding.
For maths we did practise papers at home and dc was only gettibg at most 109 (gained 4 on the real one)

Also some kids were getting extra maths clubs from y3...

I think also there is a difference between the kids who pick up quickly and arent all accurate and the slower plodders who actually understand but work slowly (speed is valued too much)

Holypricks · 27/02/2024 22:29

Practise papers at home. Oh my life

Newshoes10 · 28/02/2024 22:09

Thanks for your reply, the headteacher told me nobody was reading or sitting with my child during Sats. Obviously this was not true. I have to say that the same headteacher had a safeguarding issue raised by my friend and his response was to bring the child's parents in and ask if they were abusing/neglecting their kids!

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